You're Playing (these mechanics) Wrong!

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Love the podcaster role players and game
master has to help level up your game.

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We are your dungeon Master's Jason Portiso, Joe McCall, and Jim Crocker,

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and today we want to talk about
how you're playing wrong. That's it,

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You're playing wrong. I'm playing wrong. I'm absolutely playing Rogerson. Jim.

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Are you playing wrong? Jim?
Would I mean in that I'm not

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playing an active D and D game
right now? Yes? I am.

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That's a that's that. That's the
only wrong way to play is to not

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playing completely. I don't care what
that Fred Savage movie tells you. So,

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Tody, we're talking about rules in
D and D that get often looked

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over or just straight up played incorrectly
or purposely forgotten to make the game a

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little bit easier and a little less
crunchy. So we're gonna get into a

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couple of those things today. Joe, I want to kick this right off

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with you. This this episode was
your idea. So I need to know

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what was bothering you so much that
you called me to talk about it for

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an hour. Yeah, so this
really stemmed this podcast, or this episode

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stems from a text message that I
had sent to the two of you about

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something I was becoming increasingly frustrated with
in the game. I ended up finding

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my answer mostly because we have an
episode on it, because I asked you

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to do the research exactly like cool. It turns out I may have just

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been looking in the wrong place,
so for me is pissing me off.

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You know what, you could read
a book into an episode, Oh there

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you go, yeah, or that
you can find the answers at your local

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library. By that, I mean
my my D and D shelf, my

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shelf for the D and D beyond
app or somewhere else on the internet from

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where I was looking. So what
did you need to find? All right?

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So I was trying to figure out
how much the distance a party can

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travel in a day, specifically on
horseback. So I'll pose that question to

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you. Do you know? First, do you know the answer to what

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distance can a party cover in a
day without any vehicle with just on foot?

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My answer is as much as I
need them to for narrative purposes.

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But I'm sure there's an actual number. And that's I think what I had

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been up going with. I don't
know, is it is it rough terrain?

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Do they have a road that is
as having to foreinge as they go

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along or have they brought splies?
So on average, do they have a

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ranger with them? Yeah, that's
important. The ranger is important. But

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on average your party can cover about
twenty four miles a day at a normal

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pace. You can go fast pace
and you can cover a little bit more.

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It's really not even that much.
But twenty four miles in a day.

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Do you now on horseback? Do
you know how far a party can

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travel? We have very much established
that I do not. It's the same

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distance. Oh yes, so so
so that's the thing that that's a thing

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I knew from being like a longtime
fan of westerns, right and western stuff.

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The point of being on a horse, of being on horseback is you

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can go, like you can go
a lot faster than a person on a

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sprint, not for very long,
but they get tuckered out. But like

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you're on horseback all day a so
that you can carry a lot more crap

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than you can carry yourself, and
like you don't get tired. It's the

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horse that's getting tired at the end
of the day, you know, and

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you're just riding along. So but
yeah, but it's not that much like

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you can maybe push your horses to
get a little further. Yeah, it's

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that's a good way to kill your
horse. So yeah, yeah, so

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so it's it's the same distance if
you had fresh amounts available, which is

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something you see again in westerns,
right, Like they come into town and

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they switch horses. The exhausted horse
pulls up to the to the pony express

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station and they've got a fresh one. It jumps right on and keeps going.

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Yeah yeah right, And a lot
of us think of like, no,

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it's always the same horse. It's
not. It's not the same horse

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in those movies. Right, So
yeah, to fool. Now they silver,

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they're all silver. There's like twenty
eight silvers. Are you telling me

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that old westerns had been lines me
this whole time? No? That No,

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a lot of them are telling the
truth. They show them switching horses.

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They come into town and they go, we need fresh mounts, and

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then they get fresh mounts. The
lie that John Wayne is not a grizzled

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tough guy, that he's actually just
a Hollywood actor. Are you already telling

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me that this whole thing is just
a veil that lies to me? Over

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and over again? The Witcher makes
hay out of that, you know,

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sorry so to speak, you know, like it's a running yeah, that

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that wasn't an accident. You know. In the Witcher, it's a running

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joke that all of his horses are
named roach. Regardless of whether it's the

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same horse or not. He just
calls it road. Yeah. I think

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they actually covered that. It kind
of treats this succession of horses like it's

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the same horse, even though everybody
understands it's not. So yeah, then

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they have fun with it. The
approaches always mean though it always he always

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bites if you read the Richard book, So yeah, so and then so

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I looked it up and I'm like, well, how long how far does

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an actual horse cover in a day? It turns out Gary Geigex or whoever

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came up with this rule originally,
or I don't know if it's changed,

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Jim, maybe you might know if
it's again, I only know five E.

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But it's it's about twenty five miles, you know, maybe you could

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get to forty. But I was
expecting it to be a lot more sure.

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I was thinking like, oh,
they could cover so our came you've

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been covering like fifty miles a day. No problem because narratively, we need

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it to narrative. Yeah, and
you know distance, right, and so

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it doesn't really matter, is the
end. But so I was having trouble

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finding this do you know? So
my next question is do you know where

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you can find this information in your
books and your guns and dragons? Like

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it's almost certainly like three quarters of
the way back in the dungeon Master's Guide,

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because that's where all that kind of
stuff seems to be. It's not

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some appendix place. That's the first
place I would think to look for.

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That's the first place and the only
place that I thought to look before I

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took through the internet and I was
pulling out my hair and you guys taking

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for clarify, it was the only
place you looked. We all knew it

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just got one and that one website
Www dot Google. Oh yeah, buried

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like buried in the Ranger class description
might be the other place. It's in

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the player's hand like that. Yeah, okay, it's sure, page one

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eight one in the player one of
those technically one of those chapters between character

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creation and spells that nobody ever reads. It's chapter eight Adventuring. It's the

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second page of chapter eight Adventuring on
travel, like and who knew? Who

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knew where you would find that?
Sure? And I googled enough that that's

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I'm like, why can I find
this in the Dungeon Master's Guide because that's

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where I thought it should be,
So ass the coast. If you're listening,

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please move that information to the Dungeon
Master's Guide because that's where I think

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it belongs. Yeah, I would, so, Yeah, that was that

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is my that is kind of what
kicked off this episode. That's what was

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bothering me. So so we'll freeze
call in and tell me what an idiot

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I am. So what's happening is
that we have in the game that we're

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playing with you, we have to
deal with a lot of overworll travel.

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Yeah, there's there's towns and cities
and settlements that are pretty far spread apart.

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We're in Wildmount. So if you
have the Wildmount Book or if you

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are a critical role fan, the
maps are available for the for the general

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continent that we're on, so it
is a predetermined amount of space in between

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them. So now you have to
kind of like figure out how we're going

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to travel from town to town and
some of these are hundreds of miles apart.

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In fact, we just had a
little side quest because we wanted to

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shave like two days off of our
travel, so we went instead of going

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directly to where we needed to go, we went to a completely different place

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because they have teliportation stuff, and
that's a whole different thing. So the

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part that made you start researching was
the actual number, the numerical value of

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how much we can travel in a
day, which then tells you how many

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days we need to be traveling.
So with that knowledge, how should overworld

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travel work? So exactly that right, So you can travel on horseback or

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on foot, there's no difference.
You can travel twenty four miles in a

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day. That's an average. If
it's all rough terrain, maybe it slows

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you down. Maybe your DM or
as a GM DM you can have you

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know, rolls determined. You know, you hit something and that slows your

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pace, but that's averaging that you're
going to encounter rough train, easy terrain,

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hill, flat, you know,
and all that that's your average at

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twenty four miles at a normal pace, you can go a little bit exactly.

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So we lost of these these settlements
are two hundred miles apart. That

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puts us on like a like a
seven day travel So and you know,

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I want to hear your your thoughts
on this too. So players have a

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plot point in City A, and
then their next major plot point is in

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City B. And the overworld map
that has already determined and the players have

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a copy of and like they know
how far they have to go. It's

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going to take your players seven days
of game time to get to City B.

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How do you run that? I
mean, generally the way I am

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inclined to run it is to have
a conversation sort of at the beginning of

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the campaign or maybe you know,
when they leave the city in overland travel

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starts and say, does anybody give
a crap about this? Like are you

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interested in, you know, meeting
traveling merchants on the road and having encounters

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and like law and I explicitly always
want to make sure that those encounters are

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not just like here's some cobalts in
this encounter could happen anywhere. It should

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happen somewhere where you learn a little
bit about the world by having that encounter

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in that place, whether it's because
you meet people or you know it happens

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at a particular in that's at a
crossroads that maybe you're going to come back

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to or something like that. You
know, I try to have a point

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to it if I'm going to do
it in but in general, I kind

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of like to follow the open world
video game mode of doing it, which

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is the first time you go somewhere
and you're not sure where you're going and

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where you're not sure what you might
run into. That's maybe when you have

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an encounter or two. That's when
you have the ranger actually make their roles

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if you've got a ranger in the
party, stuff like that. But once

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they've made that trip once or maybe
twice, then you effectively kind of fast

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travel that you just say, okay, three days past now sure, yeah,

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you're back at the Gold Coast or
whatever, and you can you know,

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you can catch a boat like you
like you wanted to so, and

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that that's kind of generally how I
try to do it. Oh yeah,

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I like, well you can have
the do it the long way the first

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time in the fast travel next time. I like that a lot. Yeah,

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especially if you don't if you don't
know, like like so in our

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campaign, a lot of these are
roads, So it's not like you have

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to make a roll to like figure
out what direction you're going in. But

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I do like that when when you
don't right, if you're traveling through the

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wilderness, then then there should be
right. It's going to slow your pace,

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especially if there's you have to get
here within this amount of time or

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else you know something bad is going
to happen, right, Yeah, the

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next thing I was going to say, yeah, and then you're rolling when

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see if you go in the right
direction because you're traveling through a desert and

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you know north is north, your
time, when your time on the road

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matters, then you can start to
get into like, well are you going

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to take that long rest or you
know, are you going to push through

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the level of exhaustion to get there
on time? Stuff like that, and

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you know that then that's what it
matters. And when it's interesting to actually

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play through and just while we're at
it too, the player's handbooks, so

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it actually gives you options. If
you want to travel at a fast pace,

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you know you'll be able to cover
thirty miles, so an extra six

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whole miles, which I mean can
matter again again, especially if there's a

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time constraint an additional six miles a
day, but you get a five negative

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five penalty two passive perception scores normal
bases is the twenty four miles, like

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I said, and then a slow
pace allows you gives you the ability to

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use stealth. So again to what
we're talking about, like if you need

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to go somewhere stealthily without the King's
men seeing you, know you, or

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spotting you, then you would go
eighteen miles in that day. So that's

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another that's a six six mile that's
penalty. So yeah, that's pretty stilly.

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That's that's the rule is written again. So I've seen a few different

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ways for overland travel to be done. Now, of course my answer was

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I kind of meant it to be, you know, to kind of take

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a shot at show where it's like, okay, yes it's whatever I needed

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to be for narrative purposes. But
there's I've seen three pretty interesting ways to

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handle overworld travel, depending on how
you need it to run in your game.

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So if your major plot points are
really I just want them to go

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from A to B, or if
like okay, in today's session, I

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want to do things in both cities, you can you can mix these up

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too, so like if you really
just need to get from A to B,

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you can do something along the lines
of I think this actually might be

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in the rules as well. I
forget, I can't remember what is real

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and what's made up anymore. But
you just, you know, take the

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amount of days that's going to travel, and when they rest overnight, you

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just roll on the random encounter table. You know, extra above they're safe.

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Extra below, we have a random
encounter and then you just roll on

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the random encounter table. That's fine, if a little boring, but it

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works. And if they could have
a little skirmish. If they're camping in

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the woods, they can find wolves, if they're camping off the road,

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they can find bandits. If you
want to, like Jim said, I

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use this as a little bit of
lore. They can find I know,

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a Toaln's guard from an enemy town
or something like that. You can find

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ways of making it narratively what they
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to completely ignore it, which I
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one that that I saw, and
I've played this in my one shots because

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I need one shots to be I
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but I didn't want to overland travel
to feel meaningless. What we did

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was I had them kind of role
play out, even just one night on

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the road that they said they're we're
gonna take a long rest. I'm like,

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cool, We're just gonna roleplay a
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I kind of have them there their
characters, you know, kind of get

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to know each other a little bit, comment on the things they've just done.

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And I asked them specifically around the
table, one by one, what

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are you doing to make this rest
work? You guys? Are you guys

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are putting up camp for the night. What does your character do to put

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up camp for the night. And
they'll get answers like I'm the one that's

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going to pitch to ten, I'm
one's going to hunt for food. I'm

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the one that's going to check for
edible berries. I'm the one that's going

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to check for animbal princes see if
we're safe. I'm the one that's going

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to check that. I'll stay on
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and then we'll switch. And I
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about, Okay, in in my
character design, what would this person do

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or thing because there's a lot of
dragon burns on my tables, and how

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would that help us survive the night? Then I had them all go to

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sleep and they all roll either.
So depending on what they're doing, that's

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going to depend on what that's going
to tell me what kind of role they're

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going to make. If they're checking
for If they're checking for food, it's

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survival, If they're checking for traps, it's going to be perception. If

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it's if they're just staying the night, and maybe it's constitutional se if they

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stay awake, something along those lines, that makes them all roll for it.

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And depending on how I'm feeling that
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the DC's in my head. I
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if more than half of them fail
their DCS, we go straight to a

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deadly encounter. So it's it's it's
a pretty low probability. But if they

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all screw up that bad, yeah, some really big things are going to

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find them. And depending on who
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want to throw at R and I
kind of make it up on the spot

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and try we try to keep it
narratively in that same vein that I just

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says, like, you know,
is it is it just a couple of

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wolves or is there some brown bears
with them too? So then and and

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that worked out pretty well. The
few times that they have failed were actually

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interesting fights. Instead of just like
okay, well you guys fall asleep and

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rolled like oh you guys encounter roll
three goblins, It's like, okay,

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let's fight some goblins for no reason. I don't know where these guys came

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from. I didn't ask them their
name. I just killed them, you

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know. But yeah, the other
the alternate, the deadly encounter route is

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one that I would absolutely recommend.
That was a lot of fun. So

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one of the other things I wanted
to bring up while you're while we're on

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the overland travel is how do we
feel about if we have to hand weave

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overland travel? How do we feel
about that? Almost invalidating most of what

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are is good at. If you
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do you just not handwave of overland
travel anymore? I mean you ask the

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player, I think is what you
do. This is a situation where if

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someone is playing a ranger because they
want to do all the rangery stuff and

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they're like and they think that this
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yeah, then then you know,
you pay more attention to overland travel.

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You take the time to do the
you know, to actually mechanize it and

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have it matter and have the Ranger's
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And I think the important thing to
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is to make sure that it's not
just you know, can you avoid getting

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screwed, but you know the actions
of the ranger in that overland travel should

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give the party some kind of advantage. You learn something, you get some

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kind of resource, you don't have
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this. And I think this is
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is baked in already just to what
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being able to forage and stuff exactly. And that's kind of the point.

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But but there may be a Ranger
player who's like, you know, na,

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I just want to be drizzed and
use two swords, man, I

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don't care about any of that,
you know, like whatever, like like

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just you know, take us to
where there's you know, like you said,

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to where there's more goblins so I
can do my thing or they want

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they want to use that's why I'm
a Ranger. Yeah, so using the

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video games cheminology, they want the
quick travel button. Yes, exactly,

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Yeah, fast travel fact, because
this is one of the reasons why Rangers

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are often oopooed on, where like
it's like, oh you rangers. Rangers

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have a bunch of abilities that don't
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If your DM says they don't matter, that's correct. Also, that also

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doesn't mean to like make this whole
table do you know, crunchy over world

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travel stuff, just because there's a
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of pick and choose what works,
which is why I'm just coming back to.

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And I really like what you said
before about you know, kind of

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do it the hard way of the
first time, you know, and this

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it might bog down the table a
little bit, but it lets them know

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like the reality of what their characters
are actually going through if you don't just

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handwave it. I think there's a
way to do it and be brief.

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Be brief, you know, you
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you are on the road, right, And that's where rolling comes in.

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So you can roll to see,
like like, how well did you make

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your pace today? You know,
roll to see if you hit some terrain

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up, okay, you got an
extra day or like I've seen you know,

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on critical role. I think they
do it like, oh, you're

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on a ship and you got you
got some better wins today, so you

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actually take a day off of your
travel because you went a little bit faster

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than what I think they did that
like an airship or something. It's also

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one of those things where you can
make a player feel cool about the character

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by what they don't have to do
just because their character is there. Like

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if you've got a ranger with them, every time you fast travel between villages,

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you go, well, your ranger
knows the way. He just guides

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you without any difficulty, you know, and so like they don't have to

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make a roll or something like that. But but you're reminding them that it

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is the you know, the ranger
being good at this is why this is

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not a problem for them. And
you know that's kind of a little just

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like a little bone you can throw
them even if you're not asking them to,

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you know, kind of actively roll
and use their abilities that way,

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sure, And the other way to
handle it is is to not really worry

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about the overlay part of it.
If you have a party, if you

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have a long enough running game,
and it's less about the overarching, big

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bad story and it's more about just
having a game every week. This is

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great for like characters that have already
kind of maxed out the level, or

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if you're already passed your main story
point and you're just continuing on with these

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characters. It's like, hey,
we're going to calculate this is a this

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is a ten day travel, and
then for the next like ten sessions you

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get to do your little side quest
one shots and then finally pick up where

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you're left off in the main story
wise, you see this all the time

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in like adventure cartoons, media and
likes like SERI shows. It's like,

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yeah, there's a huge over warking
point. This is the Mandalorian. Like,

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yeah, there's a huge overworking thing
where he's where he's got to you

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know, you know, get the
babe to the thing. But every episode

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is like, oh, we have
to complete the slow side quest because my

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ship broke down and I have to
go get milk or whatever it is.

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That's why basically Mandlorian in two seconds. Do you know where that happens?

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A ton is Avatar the Last Airbender. Yeah, that's all where you know,

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Aang's got this whole thing, this
whole destiny he has to fulfill.

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But you know, we've got to
deal with the like you've dropped into this

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village per day and there's a there's
a you know, a face stealer there,

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and you've got to deal with that
face stealer because you're not just going

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to leave those people, you know, to the victim to the face stealer,

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even though it's not part of your
overarching plot. It's you know,

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that's kind of a that series just
in general, is a masterclass for how

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to do that. You know,
have an overarching plot that everybody's aware of

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all the time, but those individual
stories and the people you meet are still

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important. Jokes on you, My
players would be like, we don't have

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for this, We need to go
and that's your table. That's that's that's

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things you suss out to your table
too. Do we want to just go

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do on a B line for the
main story role or are we just here

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to play a game every week and
you know you can throw weird things at

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us. Yeah, no, and
sometimes when you get encounters on the road,

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it's because you're going too fast.
I ever prepared for the thing that

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you're going to, and I just
there needs to be a communication where if

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you make it clear to your players, if you, guys, spend a

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day or two here in this town, I'm not going to hose you by

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saying you get to the capital too
late or whatever. You know. So

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so this is something if you you
know, but if you don't want to

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do it, that's cool. We'll
just roll on. So so for overland

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travel, if you're if you want
to be exact, you can go to

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the players and book chapter eight on
adventuring. You can get all of the

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rules on travel and pace and everything
else. But you don't have to just

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because it's written in the book.
You don't have to do that. There's

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tons of options to handwave it to
to your own measurements. Let's if you

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fifty miles a day, guys,
that goes for everything in the book,

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by the way, Yeah okay,
yeah, yeah, So so just kind

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of put a button on this whole
thing, because we have other things you

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want to get to, so ways
to make overland travel matter. I might

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be going to say more interesting,
just to make it like a thing,

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so that doesn't just sound like you're
going from one room to the next and

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sudden they're two hundred miles away.
If you are going to calculate it,

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it is twenty four miles in a
day, and ways to make that make

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ways to make that matter. You
could do something like make the time matter.

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Something's going to happen in six days, but it's an eight day travel,

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what do you do right? Or
or it's gonna happen in five days

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and it's a five day travel.
I hope nothing goes wrong. Things like

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that. You have mishaps on the
road, you can hit difficult terrain and

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things like that. If you are
if you want to do the travel part

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fast but still have encounters, you
could try the random table method or the

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deadly encounter method that I mentioned before. And if you have a range join

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your party, you find ways to
engage with that player and make the Ranger

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parts matter. Rangers have a lot
of class features that do deal with overworld

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travel, and if you're just handwaving
overworld travel, you are kind of in

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validating half of what makes a ranger
ranger and just have a chat with that

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ranger player and make sure that's okay
with them and it is not. Find

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a way to engage those parts kind
of covers it. Yeah. Cool,

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voice. Now let's get back to
the show. So before we even get

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into Jim's think, I want to
say that when Joe approached us with this

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episode idea, He's like, I
want to do an episode on things that

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people forget even exist. He's like
overall travel, and I knew exactly what

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I wanted to talk about. And
then Jim comes in with a whole page

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full of notes on the thing that
I wanted to talk about. So we're

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going to tackle this one kind of
together, and then I'm going to give

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this some quick stuff in the end. So, Jim, what is the

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thing that you and I want to
remind everyone exists? Well? When Joe

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sent that text message to us,
I was inspired, if you will,

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to write my own page full of
a notes on inspiration. Which is a

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thing that is to be fair.
It's a little loosey goosey in the way

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they handle it in the actual rules, which I like, which I think

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is which I think. I think
of all the things that could be exact

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and written now in granular little rules, I like that this is not one

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of them. Mm hmmmm hmm.
But it's one of the things they added

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to fifth edition that I really really
liked. That I think is just,

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you know, unquestionable, a good, you know, a good and wonderful

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thing, especially for new players.
It gives you a little bit of control

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over which roles you think are important. The constant struggle that we face in

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D and D is the fact that
that D twenty is totally linear. Right,

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you have a five percent chance of
rolling this you know, any given

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number at any time, and there's
not a lot that you can do.

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You know, if you roll a
three to make that not a three,

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you know, no matter how important
that is. And inspiration is one of

408
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those things that puts some tools to
maybe mitigate that a little into the hands

409
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.920
of players. And I think that's
fittastic. So what exactly is inspiration let's

410
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.640
start Let's start there and kind of
make sure that everyone's on the same page.

411
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:48.240
So inspiration as a mechanic they have
added to fifth edition that allows a

412
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player to essentially bank an instance of
advantage that they can use at the time

413
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of their choosing, and you can
use it to mitigate disadvantage because as we

414
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.640
know, no matter how many instances
of advantage you have and how many instances

415
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.720
of disadvantage you have, those will
cancel each other out, so that you're

416
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making just aread with flat role.
So if there's a time where you've got

417
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.720
disadvantage and you really really don't want
to have that disadvantage, you can spend

418
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.519
inspiration to give yourself advantage to cancel
that out. If there's a time where

419
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.000
it's really important to make that role, you can decide you're going to spend

420
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.599
your inspiration to give your self advantage, which of course means you roll two

421
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.799
D twenty for whatever check it is
you're going to make, and you take

422
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.480
the higher of the two, and
we start to get into the slightly loosey

423
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.519
goosey part of it that we talked
about, and the thing but that I

424
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:40.680
think Jason, I think you and
I would both frame it as you have

425
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:45.440
some freedom to say how it works
in your campaign, which I think is

426
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.920
great for what you want it to
be, because it is a wonderful tool

427
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.079
to reinforce the kinds of behavior that
you want to reward at your table,

428
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.640
the kind of stuff you want to
see players doing. And I mean,

429
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.680
you know, I've got the text
from the Player's Handbook right here which says

430
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:08.200
your DM will tell you how you
can earn inspiration in the game, you

431
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.559
know, kind of one of the
one of the other things that's cool about

432
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:17.519
it that's actually canon that's written into
the rules is that if you see another

433
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:22.160
player do something that you think is
super cool, you can hand them your

434
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:27.519
inspiration if they don't have inspiration currently. And so that also for tables where

435
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.799
the system might be you know,
whoever makes the DM laugh gets inspiration,

436
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.079
and there's one player that's just a
cut up and that is just constantly cracking

437
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.319
the DM up. And so they
tend to get inspiration more than the other

438
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.640
players do. That gives them a
chance to divvy it out to other people

439
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.920
so that they can you know,
so you can even that out, which

440
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.480
I really like. Yeah, that
also encourages like player to player interaction.

441
00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:00.279
That's great. Can I hoard my
inspiration as a GM that does not currently

442
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:04.240
use inspiration because the person that I
learned from didn't didn't use it our late

443
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:10.759
great friend Walter Wilson. You cannot
hoard it. It's it's not something that

444
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.640
accumulates, Okay, So I can
keep either have it or you don't.

445
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.880
And and the way that you kind
of the control over it that you have

446
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:26.279
as the DM is to determine how
easy it is to recharge it. Right,

447
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.839
if you're inclined to like kind of
let players be a little more you

448
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.079
know, active with it, and
to kind of let them put the thumb

449
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.000
on the scale a little, you
can have a thing where you know,

450
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.279
you can use inspiration and then two
rounds later you do something that recharges it

451
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.640
and use it again in the same
encounter. I tend to try to keep

452
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.200
it to be a you know,
kind of a one encounter thing and then

453
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:55.680
have it be behavior that happens sort
of like between encounters that that allows you

454
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.960
to recharge it. But you can
kind of set up whatever system you want

455
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.400
that you that makes it as you
know, you can be as generous or

456
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.640
a stingy with it as you like. I have to start using this.

457
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:08.519
So this, this is something I've
been using a lot recently because I mostly

458
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.599
forgot it is even a thing that
exists because my DM doesn't use it.

459
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:17.200
Thanks show. But it lets me, like you said, set the expectation

460
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:18.880
of the type of behavior that I
want to see and have a way to

461
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.759
directly reward it. And then the
players can see as being rewarded, and

462
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.359
just like children and dogs, I
get to train them. You don't use

463
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.079
a stick, right. I actually
made for because I run so many public

464
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:36.400
games now. I made laminated cards
with cool little designs on them as say

465
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:40.720
DM inspiration. You know, use
this for one reroll and I get to

466
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.039
actually hand them a physical thing that
says here you earned this, as to

467
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.799
say this inspiration sponsored by Hello Adventurers
podcast. The next patch I make will

468
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:55.960
the little QR code on them.
So in my pregame talk, I tell

469
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.960
players, so let's use for example, I run games at a at a

470
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.400
game store, and I games at
breweries, which allows me a couple of

471
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.559
different freedoms that I don't have at
the game store that does not that does

472
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.000
not sell alcohol. But the breweries, the age of the players is probably

473
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.119
a little bit, not that different, a little bit I get. I

474
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.160
get a lot more at twelve or
fourteen year olds at the game tables than

475
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.920
I do with the breweries. But
my little pregame spiel is I, you

476
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.599
know, kind of tell them what
we're expecting today, how long we're expecting

477
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.079
to do it, you know,
some general game stuff. So then we

478
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.000
are using inspiration today. This gives
you advantage. You want this, you

479
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.960
want to get these? How do
you get these? If you character does

480
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.279
something that I think is just awesome
and out of the box and something that

481
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.640
I genuinely did not expect you to
do, I'll give you inspiration for it.

482
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.160
In fact, just this past Monday, my players had an encounter with

483
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.319
a pack of bully rugs, and
the ranger can't speak with animals, love

484
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.960
bullyugs, human earth fun. She
can't speak with animals and talked her way

485
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.880
out of the fight, and that
wasn't supposed to happen. I was ready

486
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.440
to have this fight. I had
miniatures printed for this thing. And and

487
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:04.240
as she completely just like goes through
it, rolls super high on her persuasion

488
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.400
and I even set it at like
like an eighteen in my head for level

489
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.480
three and she nails they she nails
the role, and I'm like, yeah,

490
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.079
they kind of back off. I
guess I let her have it.

491
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:15.680
And I'm like, you know what, you take inspiration for that too,

492
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.200
because I would not have ever thought
of that. And then the classic example

493
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.119
is if you make me genuinely laugh, if you're if you're that type of

494
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.559
player, this is that kind of
game of fortune. We were playing a

495
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.559
horror game and there wasn't a lot
of room for that this week. But

496
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:30.799
made me genuinely laugh, then then
yeah, I would absolutely give you inspiration.

497
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:36.680
I want to encourage that behavior.
And the group that I'm dming for

498
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.839
is called Dungeons and Drafts. Then
their whole point is to run D and

499
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:45.000
D games at breweries on slow nights. We are there to drive sales,

500
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.079
yep. And we're and we're not
shy about saying it is like, listen,

501
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.079
we're here to support the brewery today, So if they buy me a

502
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.119
drink, I can absolutely be bribed
as a DM on that particular day,

503
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.000
you buy me a drink, I'm
gonna give you advantage. And some players

504
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.839
take advantage of that. Yeah,
yes you do. Guy. I got

505
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.640
fourth and just games and I wasn't
driving all that yet. I wasn't driving

506
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.079
that day, so that was great. I was driving this week, so

507
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.559
I capped at it two or three. And that's one of the things I

508
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.079
love about it is that, like
like you say, you can be as

509
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:22.000
loose about it. You can be
if you do something quote cool unquote,

510
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:27.279
we'll give you inspiration or it can
be you know, one of the things

511
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.000
we talked about when we're talking about
with overland travel was one of the things

512
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.759
like where you have everybody at the
campsite and you say, what do you

513
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.839
do? What do you do?
What do you do? One of the

514
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.480
ways you can kind of reframe that
is, okay, how do you use

515
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.680
your class abilities to help set the
campsite up? And you know, you

516
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.559
give a good description of a couple
of sentences when you get them, you

517
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.359
give them inspiration and to maybe take
a moment every now and then to do

518
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.640
those scenes that otherwise might be you
know what we might think of as like

519
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.000
free role play or something like that. That's when you can set up inspiration,

520
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:06.559
and you can also offer inspiration to
have people go out on a limb

521
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.960
or put their character at risk a
little bit or something like that. You

522
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.280
know, you know, you can
say, well, I know that you're

523
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.320
inclined to just hunker down and stay
in tonight, but if you go walking

524
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.320
around town, I'll give you a
point of inspiration so that you've got it,

525
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.119
you know, while you're walking around, in case you get jumped or

526
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.199
something like that. Yeah. I
think this is something that needs to be

527
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:31.639
and your level of generosity with it
is is going to differ from table to

528
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.079
table and from from game to game, especially with and I'm just gonna use

529
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:40.920
my example again because I'm running very
different games as one offs when with mostly

530
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.719
new players. And this week I
happened to run a horror game and I

531
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.159
had to reward it for different things, and I was a little stingier with

532
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.440
it than I would have been on
a cillier game. The next game I'm

533
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.480
running is designed for first time players, and I'm going to just hand these

534
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.880
things out like their f I almost
envision it again as somebody that doesn't use

535
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.360
it, but it is considering it
as say, you have a party that

536
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:12.840
just wants to fight and kill everything, but you kind of want as a

537
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.840
GM, you want a little bit
more role play involved in it because it

538
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.079
helps stretch out the sessions and everything
else. You don't have a million enemies

539
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.719
just ready to go. So if
you want to encourage more role playing,

540
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.880
if they give you a good role
play scene or something like that, then

541
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.000
you can award inspiration for that.
Hey, that was that was really great.

542
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.480
Heause role play kind of thing.
Or you can go the opposite way

543
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.159
too, for those for those groups
that talk their way out of every combat.

544
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:42.320
Sorry, you can almost aage for
not doing that. Yeah, you

545
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.800
guys. You guys go back and
forth between the two extremes a little bit,

546
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.679
and it always it Actually, it's
really funny. It's one friend and

547
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.800
it's depending on whether he's there or
not, because he's very good at being

548
00:35:54.840 --> 00:36:00.239
like, well, hold on,
we're gonna we're gonna talk our way out

549
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.400
of this becomes by really three four
months, so I we're good. So

550
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.840
it's a good balance. So I
don't need to use this no, but

551
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.760
yeah, okay, that's the thing. You don't and you know you absolutely

552
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.760
don't. You can still have.
But one of the one of the first

553
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.920
things you said in that in just
what you were just saying there is that

554
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.079
I want to see these players role
playing more. And Jim and I just

555
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.679
know I'm gonna I know you guys
rack up me for for using dog metaphors,

556
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.960
but this is this is the this
is the high value treat that you

557
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.760
use to train your dog and to
you into the behavior you want to see.

558
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.199
So's not just dog. You can
do that with children as well.

559
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.400
When I have company come over and
Davy puts himself into his little dog bed

560
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.360
or you know, dog, he
puts hi stuff into his little dog bed

561
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.119
that I assume he has. It
just doesn't bite gel yes, which is

562
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.280
even funnier that my dog's name is
Davie. When you have a dog with

563
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.679
a human name, things can get
really confusing when you're when you're saying you're

564
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.280
training them. So but yeah,
when I when he starts doing the behaviors

565
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.840
that I want to see him do, he puts himself in his bed and

566
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.159
doesn't jump on people. You know, we give him the treat that he

567
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.840
likes the most. We save those
for my special occasions and giving out advantage.

568
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.840
The only thing you can do that
is more enticing than that just handing

569
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.840
out free magic items, Right,
We're not doing that. Yeah, that's

570
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.599
just not going to happen. One
of the other things that's and it's I

571
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:22.000
also wanted to just kind of interject
because before you refer to inspiration as a

572
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.519
reroll, and there may be people
going, wait a minute, it's advantage,

573
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:31.719
but the DMG is actually pretty specific
about saying spending inspiration after the role

574
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.599
is a viable way to use it. It is written into the rules that

575
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.679
if you want to allow that at
your table to have it effectively be a

576
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.320
rerole essentially, you know, if
that second role is higher you can take

577
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:49.480
it. Then that is totally valid. It's canon. It's you know,

578
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.159
written into the rules, and that's
the way I always play it because then

579
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:59.760
that nothing feels better for players than
turning a whiff into a hit. Yes,

580
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.119
every now and then, like once
or twice. In my decade of

581
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.719
running Fifth Edition, I ran hundreds
of Fifth Edition games. When I owned

582
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:15.719
my game store, and a few
times someone would roll that one on the

583
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.559
first roll, right, and then
they go, oh man, yeah,

584
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.360
no, I gotta spend inspiration,
and then they'd get that twenty and there's

585
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:29.960
like nothing that is more so good
awesome. Play table just freaks out when

586
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:35.159
that happened. I feel that feels
great. Yeah, fearing that, you're

587
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.719
like, you get a little like
like you start to you know, you

588
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.639
tear up a little at the thought
of h yeah, that's just something similar

589
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.920
happened at our table. The last
time we played was our our rogues a

590
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.719
halfling and forgot about halfling luck,
Like, hey, you're halfling, right,

591
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:53.880
yeah, but it's that kind of
halfling luck. So if you roll

592
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.119
it one, you can reroll it. He's like, I do right,

593
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.960
Yeah, he was about to spend
a luck pointing to the lucky That's right,

594
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.639
that's he was going to waste.
You don't need to do that,

595
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.320
Yeah, And I'm happy to let
that player spend inspiration to reroll a third

596
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:15.360
time. You know, that's if
you want to, you know, you

597
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:16.199
know you want to, you know, use it, but you know,

598
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:20.280
burn burn it right up. The
other thing that I love about it is

599
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.639
that kind of Jason, like to
sort of spin off from you talking about

600
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.239
using it to buy, like giving
inspiration for buying drinks or something like that,

601
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.599
is that it's not just role playing
or being cool about your character.

602
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:37.559
You can also use it for like
whoever does the recap of the last session

603
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.400
at the beginning of the game,
they get a point of inspiration. You

604
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.599
I'm the keeper, you know,
But like like whoever fills out the whoever

605
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:54.360
fills out your your whiteboard for the
order of initiative or something like that,

606
00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.440
they get a point of just a
great, great purpose reward for in character

607
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:07.000
and you know, good player,
behave. That's called social engineering, Jim.

608
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.360
If we do it out of the
game, that makes it sound not

609
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:20.320
exactly, but you know, the
good kind. This is a social engineer.

610
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:24.239
No, no, don't like that. Don't like that. But it's

611
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:29.679
it's a little positive reinforcement. So
yeah, so to put a button on

612
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.719
this one too, so DM inspiration. The very fast version is you can

613
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.880
just give advantage or reroles however you
want to play it to your players for

614
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:37.760
doing the things that you want them
to do. So be as creative as

615
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.320
you need to be with that.
Maybe start with whoever can make you laugh

616
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.159
or whoever does something just in the
in the very subjective realm of just doing

617
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.920
something cool, and you can be
as generous or as stingy as you want,

618
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.119
and you can make you can make
them feel like something they really have

619
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:53.239
to go earn, or you can
make them feel like, hey, this

620
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.679
is a loose table. We can
just you know, just just keep being

621
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.800
cool. We can keep getting these. Don't don't yourself in the foot by

622
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.679
giving out too much. That don't
be a jerk about it either. Yeah,

623
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.440
go back a three episodes to our
last horror story and you'll see what

624
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:14.599
we're talking about. But that's that
inspiration is supposed to work. So this

625
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.679
episode is almost long enough for me
for me to call it. But I'm

626
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.679
gonna throw a couple of extra ones
out there. These are some some bonus

627
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.320
things that often get misplayed. I'm
taking this from an article from the gamer

628
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.039
dot com. This is from an
article called twelve Dungeon and Dragons Rules Everyone

629
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.320
Forgets And while I was searching for
things to talk about other than inspiration,

630
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.400
those are the ones that I think
deserve the most discussion, with the exception

631
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.280
of maybe one of these, and
we'll get to that in a second,

632
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.679
but we'll have a whole different episode
on that one. But just in the

633
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.400
air, twelve D and D rules
that are often forgotten. So we'll do

634
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.760
just a quick blurb on each one
of these and just encourage you to go

635
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.920
look these up and make sure that
you're playing these correctly. Yeah, the

636
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.000
Gamer, the gamer dot com or
TheGamer Yes, they're not sure how yes

637
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.519
them of course to this article be
in the show notes as well as well

638
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:07.400
as a much longer one that is
called the Forgotten Rules Index. And this

639
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.320
is other forgotten rules with links to
the actual rules themselves. I'm having a

640
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.360
link to that one too. But
the one we're going to talk about is

641
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.760
this our article from the Gamer.
So coming in number twelve is inventory management,

642
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.320
making sure you actould have a place
to put all your stuff because it's

643
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.519
kind of weird to be carrying seventeen
swords. Make sure you sell your old

644
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:28.039
inventory or get rid of it somehow. Bag of holdings should be a cool

645
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:32.000
item to be sought after, not
an automatic conclusion. That is inventory management.

646
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.039
Long rests. Everyone forgets that you
can only long rest once every twenty

647
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.400
four hours, and abusing long rest
is a way to completely destroy. You

648
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.039
don't need to sleep for eight hours
very long rest. Yeah, it's one

649
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.559
of those it's only supposed to be
like six. Well, but you also

650
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.679
don't you don't need to actually sleep. It just needs to be like downtime,

651
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.199
like you can you know, sleep
with some of it, but it

652
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.079
doesn't have to be the full.
Yeah, it's supposed to be the other

653
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:58.480
you're bandaging your wounds and prepping your
spells and that kind of stuff. That's

654
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.719
why all that happens during that time. The other thing people forget about long

655
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.639
rests is that as the DM,
you are always allowed to say there is

656
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.519
not conditions that allow you to take
a long rest here. So if people

657
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:15.840
are trying to do the like one
encounter a day thing, you can just

658
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.920
say no, no, no,
no. It's going to be at least

659
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:23.039
four encounters before you find another place
that will be suitable for a long rest.

660
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.079
And you should not feel any guilt
or you know, let anybody buffalo

661
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.159
you in the rocks. Yeah,
well I spent all my spells thoughts on

662
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:36.119
that first encounter. Sucks to suck
you. You do want to communicate that

663
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:37.880
you're going to do that, you
know, don't count on having a long

664
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.840
rest until at least four encounters.
Here, guys, I'll tell them that

665
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.159
the wait res dungeon's going to work. Yeah, so I'll let them find

666
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.840
out number ten of spell components.
So a couple of things that with spell

667
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.440
components. This just came up.
Yeah, So a your verbal and somatic

668
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.840
components can be taken away from you, whether by being gagged or muted or

669
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.000
having your hands tied or removed,
depending on the type of game you're play.

670
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.360
But the for the idea, yes, the material components are things that

671
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.320
you really should be forging for if
you if that's the type that you need.

672
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.159
So, like when we've been coming
across some loot, like with with

673
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.199
gems and stuff, I always tell
those I'm a barbarian, so what do

674
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.000
I care? But I tell the
casters like, hey, guys, take

675
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:21.079
look your spells, see what you
need. Grab the things that you need,

676
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.159
and if we don't need them,
then we can sell them. Especially

677
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.440
at higher levels, your spellcasters are
going to need like diamonds worth a certain

678
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:34.079
amount of gold or certain gems and
a lot of a lot of the components

679
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.519
you can not exactly handwave, but
like something spellcasters should do at every town

680
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.199
is hey, I'm going to go
shop for components, and you know you

681
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.880
can kind of be like, yeah, you spend ten gold and you get,

682
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:46.360
you know, all the components.
So you spend a couple of gold

683
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:51.119
and get for wizards and artificers and
the ones that are getting stuff that you

684
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.480
can buy druids and rangers. They
need a lot of nature stuff. So

685
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:58.840
yeah, so they send during a
long rest that that's something that they'd be

686
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:04.519
doing during the long rest. Now
that is good for spell components that are

687
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:09.400
not consumed or even consumed and are
not really worth much of anything. So

688
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.639
like we're not gonna we're not going
to say, okay, you four drownd

689
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.280
and you find diamond dust worth three
and your goals. You're not going to

690
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.400
do that. And also that was
a really good survival. Also, your

691
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.800
material components that are not consumed and
do not have a cost attached to them

692
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:30.480
can all be replaced by your spell
casting focus. So that's another one that

693
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.519
gets that gets that's that's that's kind
of what wan't get in here by putting

694
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.440
this on the list. Wizards can
have their their wand or even their book

695
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.559
itself, or like we're just something
that is is there. There are Arecaine

696
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:44.000
focus Clarity usually have their holy symbol, you know, artificers have their gun

697
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.719
or whatever they have. I think
certain certain warlocks to like Warlock of the

698
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:53.440
Tome. I think they the Tome. I think that their tone acts of

699
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:57.719
book itself. Yet as there,
I'm fairly certain that's right. But I've

700
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.639
not played one. But then spell
components that are consumed or have a cost

701
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:08.840
attached to them, it's usually both
those cannot be substituted by a spell casting

702
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.840
focus, so you are going to
need that diamond dust for revivified that spell

703
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.559
components. Number nine is concentration.
Not so much of this one gets forgotten,

704
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:22.360
but it often gets misplayed. A
couple key things with concentration number one,

705
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.280
if you take damage, make sure
you're taking that concentration role and seeing

706
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.599
if you keep concentration. That's a
big one that gets It's not so much

707
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.880
that I forget that you have to
do it. I forget that they have

708
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.000
concentration up and I need players to
be like, oh right, I need

709
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.679
to do that. I have had
DMS in one shot that I played in

710
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.719
If I'm keeping up a concentration spell, they hand me a rubber band to

711
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.239
put on my wrist, yeah sure, or a little table tent or something,

712
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.199
yeah yeah, something that. But
putting you on the player reminds you

713
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.039
a little bit more than putting it
in front of them. So they there's

714
00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.480
ways to remind people of concentration,
and a really interesting one. And I

715
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.920
never even considered this as even being
a thing. It's not that I didn't

716
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.360
think it wasn't true. I just
never even thought of it. If you

717
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:13.360
hold your action to cast a spell, you need to hold concentration until you

718
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.639
actually get to pull it off.
So if you're acting first in combat and

719
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.199
you say, okay, well I
want to hold my action to cast this

720
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.079
spell after the barbarian goes, and
that's totally fine, but I have to

721
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.960
maintain concentration that whole time. So
if you have already cast a concentration spell

722
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.719
that you're holding until you banish somebody
else, and then you're going to hold

723
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.440
your action because there's another group of
enemies that are coming down into the cave,

724
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.760
there's concentration on one or the other. You couldn't you couldn't hold your

725
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.280
action. Didn't realize you can hold
your action to cast a spell to cast

726
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.239
cap, I can hold my action
to do it something else, do anything

727
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.079
else. But yeah, so like
if you're at the top of the order

728
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.519
the barbarians at the bottom, and
you really want to give them I can't

729
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:55.800
think an example, tom My head. But you want to cast something on

730
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.840
someone else that's way down in the
order, and you you got to maintain

731
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.760
concentration that whole time, so like
you know, all the goblins around you,

732
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.960
we'll see you muttering into yourself.
I didn't know that. Yeah,

733
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.320
that's a really good exactly, Yeah, that's a really really good missed a

734
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.320
lot and all of these lists because
I googled a bunch of these lists and

735
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.800
I just happened to like this one
the most. That was a huge one

736
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.599
that came up is maintaining concentration while
you're holding your action to cast. This

737
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.519
surprised there's not more Reddit threads on
that. I found several. Actually,

738
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:27.000
this one, I think we I'm
going to bring it up because I thought

739
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.639
it was super obvious, but maybe
two newer players. Is not a bonus

740
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:32.320
action is like a little extra thing
that you can do that does not take

741
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.599
up the time of an action.
We still only get one one bonus action

742
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.920
per turn apparently other tables, so
that that's not ever been something that I

743
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:43.559
have come across being a problem.
But is reactions on your list? Reaction

744
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:46.159
is not on my life? That
should I think reactions should be on the

745
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:51.159
list instead of a bonus action.
Yeah, no, I know because even

746
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.760
again citing from memory, we had
some we have some newer players at our

747
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.199
table, and and there was some
confusion on bonus actually okay, yeah,

748
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:04.039
you're right, you're definitely yeah,
But reactions, that's the one that it's

749
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.800
like, oh, you get your
attack of opportunity, Yeah, you go

750
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:07.559
ahead and swing that. It's like, well, what do you mean I

751
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.679
can't counter spell now right? Right? Or how come I can't use what

752
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.119
hellish rebuke? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, because it's a reaction yep.

753
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.639
Yeah, and you already took atactive
opportunity And that comes up with with sports

754
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:24.519
druids too, because they get to
use their reaction actively and use that of

755
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.639
that halo of spores effect. Yeah. That was a weird one too,

756
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.480
because the first time that that one
of our players used it, like hey,

757
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.599
yeah, it takes my reaction and
we're like, what are you reacting

758
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:37.599
to? And it just it just
takes. It just basically uses they get

759
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.719
to use their reaction to do this
thing on their turn. I don't,

760
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.719
but then they don't get a reaction. Number seven is one spell per turn,

761
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.760
one leveled spell per turn. Cantrips
do not count towards this, So

762
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.239
if you cast something as bonus action, you cannot cast a leveled spell as

763
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.559
an action, but you can't cast
a cantrip. Isn't there some exceptions to

764
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:00.400
that to that rule, Like the
entire point of d D is that what

765
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.599
the what your class abilities do is
allow you to break the rules that everybody

766
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:10.239
else has to follow. So almost
certainly there is some high level caster abilities

767
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:16.320
that let you make around that specific
circumstances of sorcers we may have covered.

768
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:23.000
General is one leveled spell perturn and
that should be your you know, the

769
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.119
thing you have in mind as a
spell caster. Yeah, so like you

770
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:30.199
know, misty stepping and then fire
bolt totally fine, Misty stepping in the

771
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:37.960
fire ball no good. Number six
creatures provide cover and this is great if

772
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.280
you're playing with miniatures, because then
you have a little bit more of a

773
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:44.519
of a tactile view of where things
are actually standing. If you're standing in

774
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.920
a line. And that doesn't mean
allies, that means any creature. So

775
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:52.079
if you're in melee combat with anything, and then the archer, you know,

776
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:53.559
you have a goblin in front of
you, and then the goblin archer

777
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:58.000
wants to shoot you, they have
to shoot around their friend, right And

778
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.119
the fact that's going to provide you
with cover. That also means if you

779
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:06.880
were next to an ally, you
can have cover behind that. And that

780
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.039
actually I thought that was only if
you are a size smaller, but that's

781
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:14.280
actually for anybody, No, for
anybody, So even I got that wrong.

782
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.960
Number five sun like sensitivity. This
is the reason why some classes seem

783
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.679
really really really good on paper,
right, and then you get them into

784
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.320
practicality. It's like, oh,
I need to carry an umbrella everywhere I

785
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.199
go. Or yeah, it's like
drought, you want to play drought drows

786
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:31.480
awesome. I you know, I
have some backup ideas just in case my

787
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.119
my barbarian dies and I kind of
I wanted to try a cobalt. They

788
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.119
have some like sensitivity. Also.
I'm sure there's some kind of sunglasses.

789
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:46.239
I feel that there are goggles of
night of dark vision, goggles of skin,

790
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:50.320
so you know, the you have
sp F two hundred on. Yeah,

791
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.280
what do we got covered? Yeah, well that's something you know,

792
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.559
talk to your DM. But but
that is there that in mind. Yeah,

793
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.239
that is there to kind of balance
out some of these classes that have

794
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.199
a lot of advantage because Drawur awesome. Yeah, Droughur is so cool that

795
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.880
they're probably the best elf to that
alfinest. Yeah, I was gonna say,

796
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.079
except maybe Aladrimad is a droughtist,
but mechanically they're they're one of the

797
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.239
better elf classes. Shut up,
Joe. So number four, this one

798
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.440
comes up a lot, a lot, a lot, and we think we

799
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.280
all know the answer to this,
and the actual answer was so surprising to

800
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:28.039
me. Number four is an initiative
tie. If you tie for initiative,

801
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.320
Joe, what happens? So I
always go by decks, But it's actually

802
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:36.599
between the up to the players,
isn't it. Yeah. So if there's

803
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.079
a tie among players and the players
decide who goes first, that's the two

804
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.960
that's the two of you walking into
the door at the same time realizing you

805
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.760
can't go abreast. That's after you
start no, no, no, I

806
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:47.840
insist after you, sir. That's
if it's among players, if it's if

807
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:52.199
there is an enemy in there as
well, the DM decides. But it's

808
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.480
really just like, uh, who's
probably gonna go by deck score and then

809
00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:00.239
if that doesn't happen that you do
die do it? I do it by

810
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:07.800
initiative bonus, I do it buy. Whoever has the highest initiative bonus goes

811
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:14.519
before the decide situation. That's usually
what I default. Okay, it was

812
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.320
a DM decized thing. Yeah,
I like going by something I can measure

813
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.239
this way. It's not just like
it's like, oh, I'm going to

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go first. Obviously I like there
to be a reason behind it. But

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the players can can start planning their
attack. They could be a tactical thing.

816
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Well, who's going to go first? So time for advantage. The

817
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rules are, it's up to you. You don't have to go by decks.

818
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Three is movement. This is This
is something that gets mixed up with

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new new players a lot. You
don't have to move all in one shot.

820
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You can you can move attack,
move back to where you were,

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you can move to your action,
move somewhere else to your bonus action,

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and move somewhere else again, as
long as it stays within your total.

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And this is something that the Balder's
Gate game handles really really well. Two

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is invisibility. It doesn't just hand
you your stealth. It doesn't just hand

825
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you the fact that then one can
proceed you. You can still be heard,

826
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you can still be used to be
smelled by creatures with you know,

827
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particularly keen sense of smelling wolves.
That's actually a part of the wolf stat

828
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:14.920
blocks. They have advantage on perception
checks involving smell. But it really just

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gives you advantage and your enemy's disadvantage
on perceiving you. You can still be

830
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.480
really kind of seen. It's just
really hard. Yeah. Yeah, And

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again while we're at it, stealth
and the past with that a trace is

832
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that is that on your list?
Because it is not. That's one again.

833
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.360
They were like, I'm just gonna
stealth, Like, well, I'm

834
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gonna hide like way behind what right, Like you're in there, You're in

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a room, there's nothing. Yes, and this is something actually this is

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on this list, but let's let's
just get into that real quick. So

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again, in my in my store
level one shots, one of my characters

838
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:50.039
that I have as a pregen is
a thief, and the bonus action high

839
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:54.079
was something that was getting abused just
entirely too much. Those they never got

840
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.119
hit because I wasn't. I just
wasn't gonna bother with them. And then

841
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you know, then the question became
okay, hide behind what, and I

842
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.800
just started giving them places they couldn't
hide it. Yeah, just keep in

843
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.320
mind that this is a like if
we're talking about dungeons and dragons. This

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is a storytelling game. So it's
important to have that. Have that ready

845
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because you will run into players who
say, like, oh, bonus ac

846
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.199
can hide, like okay, hide
behind what, like describe them at least

847
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:22.880
right like, well, Okay,
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna one

848
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:28.920
of the slain enemies. I'm gonna
lay down under. Yeah, and that

849
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might be a good reason to give
an aileration, but yeah, yeah,

850
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and you know, and the feast
whole thing is to stick and move.

851
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.000
But you know, I don't want
to validate half of what makes the thief

852
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.079
a thief. But yeah, sometimes
we get it's so caught up and though

853
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.000
I think in playing and winning that
we forget that this is a narrative driven

854
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:45.880
I love I want that on a
T shirt and the number one on here

855
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.239
is death seaves a couple of things
that new players may not always know,

856
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.440
and we may even get backwards.
Sometimes once the character goes unconscious as you're

857
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:59.960
HP, they have to roll dead
seas on their turns. Three failures,

858
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.119
dead, three successes, and you
stabilize, you're still unconscious. You get

859
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.800
one hid point right, No,
no, you won't get them on that

860
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:10.400
twenty not twenty. You come back
at one HP, but three successes,

861
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.719
you're still at zero. You're still
unconscious. You're just not in danger of

862
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.039
dying. Now. One is two
failures. That one is two failures.

863
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.639
That's not instant death as some people
think you which you would think like if

864
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:24.239
that twenty is an instant backup and
then a natural one would be instant death,

865
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:27.039
and it's just not. This just
not the case. So it is

866
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.400
you pop back up at one or
it's two death fails. Right. Also,

867
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:37.239
if you get hit while you're while
you're conscious critical, being prone while

868
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.000
prone and unconscious is an auto crit
which is which would be two death fails.

869
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.000
So those the twelve D and D
rules everyone forgets. According to the

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00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.880
gamer dot com And again the link
will be in the show notes. But

871
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.039
I hope you guys learned, like
a lot today. I learned all bunch.

872
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.840
I learned way more than I thought
I would. You know, there's

873
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:58.519
some crazy stuff from that in that
player's handbook. We got to start reading

874
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:05.159
it. It's a This thing's full
of real page turner, is what it

875
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:09.159
is. Yeh. But but Jim, thanks so much for for bringing up

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00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:13.679
inspiration as well. Joe, thanks
for bringing up over world travel. We're

877
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.239
going to drop some fun things in
the show notes. I don't really know

878
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:20.599
where we're gonna drop yet. But
what is a rule that you never really

879
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.519
knew how to get around or really
or what's the rule that you were playing

880
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.760
wrong for longer than you probably should
have and then have you epiphany one day

881
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.679
to start playing it right. I
want to know, like I want to

882
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:32.239
know what took you the longest to
learn? What? What do we learned

883
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.920
by doing wrong? So you can
send your stories about that too, Hello

884
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.159
Adventures Podcast at gmail dot com,
or tell us your story yourself at helloadventures

885
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:44.800
podcast dot com, slash voice and
leave us a voicemail like the If you

886
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:46.840
like what you say, it is
putting them on the show. But I

887
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.719
think that's all we got today.
I think that's plenty of plenty. That's

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00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.840
st on think of a studying about
Jim Joe. Thanks so much, Thank

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you and thank you for listening to
Hello Adventures. We're your host Jason Portiso,

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Jim Crocker and Joe a Call producer, editor and engineer Jason Portiso and

891
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892
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.320
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