"Casted", Speed Runners, Unfamiliar Familiars, and Wizards Casting FAFO [RPG Horror Stories]

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Hello, Adventure the podcast for role
players and game master's up. Level up

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your game. We are your dungeon
masters. I'm Jason Portizo, I'm Joe

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McAll, and I'm Jim Crocker.
And today we are going to do a

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special extended edition because we're doing this
once a week now and we're not gonna

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do a little quick episodes, which
means we got to drag out content we're

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normally we used to do what we
used to do, one horror story,

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be like, oh cool, that's
a nice little story, then talk about

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it for a while and that was
it. We're gonna do a few horror

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stories today and we're gonna talk about
it and we're gonna about all of them

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and that should fill the time that
we need to fit. Yeah, so

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deal with it, listener. Yeah
has podcast stuff, all right. So

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I got a few stories picked out
here. These are all from Reddit's r

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slash RPG horror stories and there's some
there's some fun ones in here. There's

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a I got two that are that
are not only labeled as such, but

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I agree they are lighthearted. And
I got to here that are a little

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more Let's get into these type of
type of things so let's start off with

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Philip. Let's start with with one
of the one of the light ones.

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So this is from user ar Canis
Ultra and under our PG horror stories,

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and the story is titled player can't
slash refuses to stop saying quote cast it,

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and they say that's that's literally the
whole story. I played this with

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this guy for years and every time
he used the past form of cast he

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would say cast it. We corrected
him, Oh, I don't know,

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dozens of times, but he had
a really hard time learning things, mixed

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with a stubborn heart. Don't get
me wrong. Love the guy, and

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it wasn't really that big a deal. It was more amusing than anything else.

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Side note. When he started playing, his math skills were complete crap.

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We also had to do the math
forum where I whether became keeping track

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of hit points, adding an attack
AC or damage breath. For a few

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years. He can math faster than
most of us. It really taught me

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that if you want to be better
at math and increase your mental computational speed,

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play D and D or any TETHRPG. Even though he became an expert

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at math, he never did master
the whole casted thing. Yeah, I

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kind of twinge a little bit when
some when people say things that are just

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like egregiously mispronounced. As much as
I my personal character flaw is I forget

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names the second I hear them,
But when people like mispronounce somebody's name,

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it just drives me nuts and the
limit. Yeah, let's talk about this.

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So I don't want to I don't
want to sound like an early nineties

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hack comedian because my mother in law
actually is awesome. But you know,

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let's let's listen. I was about
to say, but your mother in law

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is an early ninety sec median that
was that would have been a much better

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uh uh. My mother in law
is Jerry's Ardwell, what's the deal with

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high schoolers? So when it comes
to names, she learns it the first

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time and that's just how she's gonna
say it forever, and hopefully she got

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it right the first time, because
that's all you're gonna get. There's a

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this little luncheon uh near her where
the name is definitely Sonia, and she

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goes there often and like loves telling
us how she how she wanted to go

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see Sonja and uh, and I
just have to kind of just deal with

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it, because I've got another several
years of listening to her say it lined

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up in front of me. So
uh yeah, it's uh, I feel

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your pain. I don't know.
Yeah, that's that's a let it go

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thing. I think is is where
we're at with that? And it's it

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sounds like that's pretty much what they're
where. They're leaving it too. Yeah,

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you get to correct them three times
times, and if after the third

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time it doesn't take, then you
got to decide whether you're going to live

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with it or not, because it's
not going to take. After after three

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tries, if they're still not doing
it, then I've got it. I

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have a D and D example actually, because I actually have a D and

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D. Is it the same example? Joe? Is it? Is it

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my son? No? Oh okay, well live one. That's my son?

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And then I think I may have
heard repeated. I would love to

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hear yours, okay, and I
think exactly what you're talking about. Yeah,

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and actually so so I know I
said we're splitting hairs, but this

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drove me insane. It's because it's
my son. Joe almost had one,

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most kid. Yeah, it's thinking
about it right now. And if you're

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listening. I'm I'm sorry. I
love you. He doesn't. His dad

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doesn't show. He does not listen
to this does some lame show with his

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dad on it. So yeah,
so there is a spell. I think

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it's a cleric spell, Druid cantrip
and Drewid cantrip, but I think I

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think one of our players may have
whatever. So it's Chile, which is

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a I think you mean, is
a blunt weapon, the real thing that

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Irish Scottish in origin. Yeah,
but yeah, it's spelled funny as many

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is. Anybody named Chavn can tell
you. They spell things funny over there.

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The rules just don't count. It's
pronounced, they don't, yeah or

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c ronan right, So anyway,
right, sortia And also what's the new

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there's a movie and it's it's not
anyway anyway, oh Salwen, Salwen,

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So anyway, but I digress,
I digress. It's Chile, Okay,

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it's Chilely And he kept calling it
Chile Yep. He'd be like, I'm

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gonna cast Chile, and I'm like, chile Lely, You're almost there,

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but almost, like I was,
like, it's Schilely, it's shalle Lee,

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like like it was like nails on
a chalkboard. Also, he was

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a level to Druid at the time, which meant he cast it fourteenth time.

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Yeah, every single, every single, every turn started with castle.

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Now my break with it is that
he didn't say with an over the top

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accent. I think I think that's
the bigger, the bigger full pile here.

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I just wanted him to finish the
word I'm gonna cast Chile. You

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cast what I cast? There you
go. It's oh, now I know

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that spell. One of my locals
that the word silvery barbs kept getting them.

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But yeah, that's no. What
I was gonna say is, Joe,

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do you think our players listen to
ours, to our show? Yes?

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Okay, cool, so I don't. I don't care if he feels

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called that or not. I swear
to God if I hear him say I'm

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gonna roll one D ten one more
time. The D the D in D

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six or D ten or D eight. He fully pronounces that die every single

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time. It's okay, I'm gonna
do a hint for for a two die

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six damage and I lose five minutes
off my life span every time he does

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it. That's flitting hairs. That
is not splitting hairs. That is splitting

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sells off of my brain? How
many how many dye six do you take

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off of here? I take to
die for psychic damage every time he says,

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yeah, there you go. It's
fantastic. Maybe it is splitting hairs.

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But but all that to say our
canis ultra. I am on your

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side, so I think, though, but cast it. I think we

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can just chalk up to a colloquialism. I can't even say that word colloquialism.

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There it is. Yeah, proud
of you, Joe. So if

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you have trouble saying colloquialism or worcechester, sure sauce, leave cast it alone.

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And just if everyone else say it
too. This is just in your

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new word. Now it's like ink
like eventually, it's just it's gonna become

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part of our vernacular vernacular. Thank
you. That is exactly the word I

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was, like vernicule, or just
substitute a different word, you do.

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Yeah, I throw the spell at
him, toss it. I'm going to

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toss a fireball in his direction,
but that has a range of touch.

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He's not throwing anything. He cast
it. Yeah, inflict wounds. I

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invoke it. Yeah, I agree, this is AA This is properly flared

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as lighthearted. Should you let it
go? Probably? Are you going to

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have a heart attack over it?
Also? Probably you should? You should

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get down on your knees and thank
you that like this is what constitutes a

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horror story your game. Yeah.
If the Restor game is going this,

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well, thank guy GaX that that
this is as bad as it gets for

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you. Yeah, so congratulations Slash. I'm so sorry. At least it's

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not let son I should to die
for damage. All right, let's get

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one that's a little more horrifying here. This is from a user Conngoid.

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Also in RPG horror stories, mild
spoilers for Cursustrod, and this one of

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very mild spoilers. So if you
care so much about the extra vampire,

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yes, skip ahead of skip ahead
of skip ahead a little while. But

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I don't think it's too too bad. Uh. Player joins campaign, grabs

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a wish, and burns it,
never to be seen again. The story

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goes, So this isn't so much
a horror story as it is a WTF

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moment. There are cursal Strata spoilers. My group was playing Curse of Strode

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and we were level eight or so
when a new player joins. In his

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first session, we find the luck
blade in Strad's castle, and the new

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player just happened to be the one
who grabbed it. He was real pushy

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with the loot, and the rest
of the party didn't argue, We're not

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really a lot focused group, so
whatever, what do you focus on?

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Story? I don't know if you're
mean, our caster can not, but

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as a not loot focused player,
I get that a lot. We're not

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really loot focus groups, so whatever. Anyways, we didn't know it was

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a luck blade until he attunes to
it, and then he learns it has

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a wish on it and immediately wishes
to be reunited at home with his dead

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wife. The DM acquiesces, and
the character poofs away. The player,

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happy as a clam, goes on
and on about how he completed his character's

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backstory he won and how satisfying it
was, and so the rest of the

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party you felt like. The dude
shows up, plays for three hours,

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Ninja loutes an amazing item, then
disappears. He didn't even play long enough

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to tell anyone his character's backstory,
so no one could share in his accomplishment.

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And here's the kicker. The player
never showed up again. He just

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played long enough to take the luck
blade and dip out of the party.

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WTF, all right, kids,
that's how you win D and D he

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won. He won. I love
that he never shares the backstories of the

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other players. Don't even know,
like he was doing a speed run.

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Yeah, it's like, wait what
dead wife? Yeah, the problem there

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is not that player that that's a
DM problem. That's a DM letting that

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player do that problem. Shown up
to a table that's mid like mid levels

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without a backstory that that one is
then on Oh no, no, no,

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so right in the middle of that, like like right when you were

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reading it, we got the moment
where the horror story kicked in. He

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strong armed his way into the item. Nope, nope, okay, the

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DM let him do it. That
is where that horror story starts. You

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can say, no, you could. You know, like, what a

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wish is supposed to do is to
and this is one of those things where

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people get it in their head that
a wish can do anything. I'm using

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scare quotes here right, air quotes
anything, And that is not what a

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wish can do if you know,
there's a whole text for what wish can

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do and what it can't do,
and text and and essentially what you can

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do is you can kind of you
know, you can simulate a spell effect

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up to ninth level right use it
using a wish, and it may be

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a spell that already exists, it
may be something that's kind of roughly equivalent.

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Like Raven Loft is really specific about
the fact that there are no magical

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effects that let you leave that demi
plane right without you solve the adventure.

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And it's very easy for the DM
to just say Nope, no, you

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can't, Like I know it's a
wish, but you know, Strad's will

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is the thing that you know holds
over everything here and you can't just you

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can't just blow out of there and
do that. To my mind, that

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feels like it's just an incredibly easy
thing to just say no to sure,

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And there's such a stigma, so
like, I don't want to Realroad,

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anybody, I don't want to,
you know, it's like, no,

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you can keep people from breaking your
game. You can just say no,

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you're not going to break my game. And that's not Railroad. Anybody railroading

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anybody that that's protecting the autonomy and
the choices of all the other players at

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the table. Is what's going on
there when you do that. At the

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same time, if I may,
this player told on themselves, you know,

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and and good riddance in some ways, because like all I can think

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is like, well, that's what
my character would have done, and you

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know, and at the very least
what the DM can do is say,

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poof, they're gone, the sword
remains behind, right, so that you

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know, because also like like I
hate that there's a wish attached to that

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thing, because the real use is
that you know, that's a great weapon

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to use against the vampire, right, because it's not all the sunbeam effect

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and all that kind of stuff and
everything, and the wish is almost incidental

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to what's going on with it.
Although you know, great Smith, if

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you're put it like absolutely should there
should be some table consensus about how you

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use that and what goes on with
it and stuff like that. But at

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the very least, when they you
know, when they were gone, the

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DM could have given the sword to
the rest of the party, right,

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and I hope that they did.
When it became clear that that guy was

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just a was just there to troll. I'm really curious whether, man,

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now, I really want to know
whether that was like pure serendipity or whether

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this guy was like, oh,
you guys are playing STRAWD whereabout in the

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castle? Are you just curious?
You know, like that kind of thing,

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whether he had some sense of what
was going on and knew that they

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were somewhere around there and like was
kind of trolling them and doing it on

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purpose and you know strange. Yeah, it feels like the player knew because

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this is a published book everything.
Oh yeah, yeah you can. We

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talked about this last time where where
the players were trying to speed run straw

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and this might be just another speed
run thing. I'll look at the comments

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here. A lot of people are
saying, like, yeah, strat speed

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run. The guy ringers doing my
favorite ones that he wanted, he wanted

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d and d H he is him. That's one of my favorite ones,

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and of course the inevitable. I
also choose this guy's dead wife, which

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is a there's a couple other good
ones here, but be Reunited with My

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dead wife. A lightning hit bolt
hits you, It disintegrates, you missed

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an opportunity to be a genie.
You know. Actually, yeah, that

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is one of the comments here reunite
with dead wife. The first finger on

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the monkey's Paul furls he is now
sitting in his home with the corpse of

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his wife. Yes, yeah,
or neither, he said, I think

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he should be staying in the coffin
skeleton permanently. Yeah, there is a

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couple of people bringing up let's see
the says the DM messed up the description

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for that particular item says that wishing
to leave Borrovia is one of the few

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things that that particular item cannot do. Chang, there we go. I

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hadn't remembered whether that was specific to
it, Like, I don't think it

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was in the original edition, but
in five e if it specifically says that.

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But but absolutely there. You know. The module is like, here's

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all of the ways players may try
to, you know, shortcut getting to

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the end to leave Borrovia. None
of these will work. And I'm glad

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that they called that out specifically for
sure. Yes, yeah, so another

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chilly one. Some of these troll
stories are kind of funny, and that's

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only our is funny. And if
a player, if a player shows up,

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doesn't troll st poofs themselves out of
the game and then disappears. You

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just be like, hey, that
was weird, right, and then just

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and then just move on without them. And that's also a thing where there

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is nothing wrong with stopping kind of
stepping out of character for a moment and

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going Okay, that kind of sucked. I don't like that for you guys.

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We're going to rewind the game back
to the beginning of that session and

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we're going to pretend that never happened
and replay with everybody that's being serious about

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it, because that guy didn't work
out now that it's just as adults.

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And a couple of things worth noticing
noting here this this was an online game

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on Roll twenty. The problem sorry, that's where the horror story the problem

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players seem to be a friend of
a friend. Yeah, okay, we're

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a friend of one of the other
players, and just like you know,

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you know, vet your friends better. Yep, yep. But I'm just

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going to add to the the other
thing. This is why I like some

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magic items that you don't get everything
up front, that you have to like

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awaken you know, and get do
an awakened status through something or you know,

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because giving them access so so early
on, right, like you haven't

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access to wish, probably a bad
idea. Yep, yeah, obviously it's

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just following the module, No,
I know which you know, these things

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are play tested, right, everything's
perfect, right, and this is just

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funny. This is where it comes
to. Yeah again, like the modules

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printed, it's already out there,
but it is up to you to run

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the game. So no one's disagreeing
that the young here, whether the player

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was just trying to be a troll
in the DM enabled it, No one's

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disagreement with that. However, a
lot of people are agreeing that, like

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story wise, this is awesome,
Like the player just came in there,

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kicked the door open, we blinked
themselves out of existence and won the game.

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So congratulations to that player. Are
your trophies in the mail? Hello

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to the show. All right,
let's do another bad DM planning story.

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This is coming from Panda Priests and
the story is titled The Familiar we talked

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about for two hours outside of session
is actually just an owl. This was

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maybe a year ago before Session four
or five of Minds of Fendelver. With

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some randos online, my arcane trickster
got the spell find Familiar. I told

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my DM I wanted to give my
familiar personality and lore, and she seemed

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excited and enthusiastic. We exchanged ideas
for about two hours over text about my

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character summoning the spirit of his old
acting coach to come help the party.

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I even told her about the ritual
and the flavor I wanted to give it.

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When it came time in the session, she YadA YadA away my ritual.

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Then let me describe what the owl
looked like. I told the owl

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to introduce herself to the party,
remembering how the DM told me overtext what

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kind of voice she would use for, only to be told she can't talk

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because she's just an owl. This
DM had made a separate voice channel in

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that discord server for one on one
conversations, so I asked her to talk

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there. I asked her why she
totally changed the character we meet together and

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agreed on, and she started yelling
at me about how she can't put all

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her focus on just one player.
I just left, So it's kind of

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happy ending. Yeah, that that's
just you do. Mismatched expectations. Yeah,

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very very clearly is what's going on. Have the DM saved her two

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hours of grief and just just be
like, hey, you have the familiar

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is just going to do normal familiar
stuff. I don't. I just don't

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have the time or bandwidth to voice
another you know, familiar character. Sounds

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like fun, but it's just not
gonna happen. Sounds like maybe the DM

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had gotten in overhead though possibly or
over their head, possibly that like they

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wanted to do all that, and
or maybe another player was like, wait,

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you're doing all that like for them, like that's okay, here's my

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idea for my familiar. Yeah,
yeah, kind of a thing and they're

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like, well, this is too
much. But it just comes down to

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probably communication and just because you have
to be able to say and have those

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hard convers Hey, listen, I
know that we spend a lot of time

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talking about this, you know what, after I thought about it, I'm

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just not going to be able to
do that. You know, I'm not

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going to have the bandwidth to do
it, or you I just can't I

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can't keep track of that too or
whatever it is. Yeah, And I

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think it's also one of those things
where different people have different ideas about what

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it means to have conversations like outside
of the session, and like like some

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people have it in their heads that
what that means is that you're creating you

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know, fodder and lore and all
this kind of stuff that that then is

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going to get referred back to in
the session and it's going to enrich everything

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and enhance it, you know,
and other people, including I think a

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lot of dms have the attitude towards
that, like, well, the separate

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discord server is for like that player
that needs to get out of their system,

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like the eight pages of backstory they
have on their OWL familiar. That's

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why I let them do that,
right, because we don't want to do

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that in game, right, Like
and and and if you're not real clear

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about the nature of what that between
game stuff is, that's one of those

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places where I think those disagreements can
happen. Yeah, because that's like that

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Druid or whatever wants to spend you
know, wants to have a fifteen minute

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scene where their owl gets you know, has a conversation with every other character

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and stuff like this, you know, and the characters are like, can

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we just go into this cave please, because there's gold inside there and goblins

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and balance. Yeah, that that's
tough to balance for a you know,

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for a DM. But but that
just sounds like what happened there is that.

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Yeah, it's you know, they
kind to your a bone by having

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that, you know, that extraneous
discussion. But then when it came to

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be game time, it's like,
okay, we're not going to spend twenty

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minutes doing this. Yeah I thought
about it, and like I'm not going

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to do that. Yeah. Yeah, me and everybody else talked about it,

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and we're just that's we don't like
it. But also minds of fan

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Delver is a is a beginner.
That's what's in the starter set or was

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in the stars or I guess they
re Do they revamp it or do they

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make a continuation of starter set which
then became a starter kit or something like

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that. I mean it's part of
the starter kit. Yeah, but no,

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but they just released they just did
something new with it, with some

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kind of like the Black Stove or
something. I had Black Models. It's

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the thing you run for new players. YEAHI equivalent of Keep on the Borderlands

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or whatever. Right, Yeah,
so I wonder if the d M was

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also new and like it was like, yeah, you must you must know

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a lot more about this stuff than
I do. Possibly, you know.

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Wow, Yeah, this sounds great
to our conversation over text by the way,

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so like we don't know, that
could be like with some of my

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friends, that could be like two
texts, right, it sounds like,

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yeah, yeah, is to thing
because some people can just write off the

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cuff like like it's no big deal, and for other people that's you know,

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that's a real that it requires real
effort to to do writing like that.

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So but also like how long between
each text that you say, there's

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two hours and two hours of text? Thing? I'm assuming that this was

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a discord text channel. Okay,
okay, because everything else was taking those

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discords back and forth. Yeah,
that's that's my interpretation. Yeah. So,

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like I run a game that's a
not D and D, but it's

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a fantasy game, and one of
the characters, through a confluence of circumstances,

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is actually writing letters back and forth
to the to one of the big

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bads, right, you know,
and and they're like playing this like little

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cat and mouse like you know game
like kind of teasing and taunting each other

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in these letters back and forth and
stuff, and you know, like are

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they in love? Do they hate
each other? And maybe a little bit

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of both kind of thing. And
it's super super fun to like engage with

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that player that way. But that
player completely understands that, like during game

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time, like they say, you
know, oh, I got another letter

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from the big bat, and everyone
else goes, oh, whoa cool,

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And then we keep playing, right
that that then doesn't nice for you from

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of thing that takes ten minutes of
game time for us to deal with the

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fallout the aftermath. Can we just
sort of assume it's a thing that's going

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on because both of us find that
a fun thing to do, you know,

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outside of the context of the actual
session. Right, Yeah, so

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it sounds like we were kind of
on this. Could have been the player

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possibly overstepping you know what her of
the pie is. Yeah, it might

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have been a main character syndrome.
Could be could have been the DM over

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promising in that in that thread,
or we're not being clear about what they

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what they were committing to. Yeah, that's my first probably a little of

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both my first impression. Now,
now let's also lets let's let's step back

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with podcasters for a second and remember
that this story is written from the player's

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perspective, so it could be could
be any number of things. Really,

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So you know, if this was
a story of d M regret and saying

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and over promising, that could be
one thing. If this was the DM

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kind of you know, running this
by either other players or even like other

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dms in their circle, I bounce
ideas off you guys all the time,

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which all dms should. So DM
should be checking with each other and flat

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out stealing from each other at every
possible chance, and say, we'll get

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unlike stand up comics. Correct,
what's the deal with my mother in law?

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Is she made of airplane food.
Let just get all the trips in.

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But I will say that, no
matter what the circumstance actually was,

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I do think the DM was the
player and explanation, which sounds like she

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did not provide. Yeah, it
sounds well well, but there's also like,

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just are you demanding an explanation in
the in the private chat, don't

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in the middle of the game,
or is that a little conversation that you

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have afterwards, because those those are
two different things too sure, and she

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went into the voice chat, it
was like, hey, what's going on?

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Yeah, yeah, so unclear if
she left after the session or immediately

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upon hearing that she wasn't going to
get her away. And I'm generalizing based

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on the user name Princess, but
yeah, it can be a few things.

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But what we can learn from this
is that if you if you need

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to backtrack on something from your players, if you over promised, and now

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you set yourself up for doing this, doing this voice and the character that

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you didn't plan on and doesn't fit
in your world, possibly you know,

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just have a you know, have
a second two hour chat with your player

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list, and hey, I've done
goofed. Here's what I can do for

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you. Yeah, I actually can't
do a Boston accent. Body first,

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anybody could do a box An accent. But yeah, this is just another

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in a long line of poor communication
stories. But someone here either over asked

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or over promised and uh and possibly
a combination above. Yeah, yeah,

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it could be most likely could be
say it somewhere in the middle. If

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we heard the story told from the
third party, we probably know a lot

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more. But with with the information
we have, we can at least learn

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that, like you know, the
the Familiars, Uh, don't you know?

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If you're if your game is for
like you know, some sort of

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media like a podcast, then you're
familiar. It gets to be super interesting

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and your DM gets to have full
control over how interesting that that that familiar

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is. Currently, I'm listening to
a nad pod campaign to which I kind

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of glossed over when it was when
it was current. I'm going back and

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listening to that now. And all
three of them have a little side character

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that the DM is voicing, and
he's got three of them to juggle,

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And first of all, they're all
awesome. The season means an incredible DM.

406
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.400
But like you know, then that's
that's part of the story. Sure,

407
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.039
that sounds like a nightmare to me. Just that's a g It's the

408
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.960
thing three weeks from now where there's
another horror story that that that's posted by

409
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:00.920
Like, you know, I'm playing
a warlock and our game broke up over

410
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:12.200
a fucking owl, classic owl stuff. Yeah, that's all right, I

411
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:17.079
got one left here. It's another
lighthearted one, and I feel like we're

412
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.720
gonna like the surface level of this
one is that it's just a very funny

413
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:26.000
story, and there is layers to
this and there's some implications to this that

414
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.720
we can really kind of So the
one I think it is, I actually

415
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.599
think I don't actually think it's all
that lighthearted because of some of the implications

416
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.960
of it. But well, the
implications themselves are not light hearted, but

417
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.400
the situation itself is kind of funny. All right, We're not going to

418
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.119
harm anybody, Like I said,
the situation on surface level is just pretty

419
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:47.200
funny. Yeah. So this is
coming from a user dirty USB, and

420
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.799
the story is wizard makes a blind
character and then gets upset when he's blind.

421
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.160
We're playing in a five player group
in college with a guy that wants

422
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.680
to make a blind wizard who relied
on their bird familiar for sight. Of

423
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.839
course you can see three you're familiar. However, he was also constantly telling

424
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.440
his bird to give other players the
help action, essentially giving the martial characters

425
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.559
on demand advantage. DM said that
the baddies were probably gonna start shooting at

426
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.759
the bird that's pissing them off.
Wizard gets pissed and says the DM is

427
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.640
unfairly targeting him and that it's not
fair for me if I'm just permanently blinded

428
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.480
for the rest of the fight.
DM says that if the bird stops harassing

429
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.079
the batties, they'll stop targeting the
bird. Wizard refuses, bird dies,

430
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.200
Wizard is blind for the rest of
the encounter and sulks like a baby.

431
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.319
Maybe don't put your only pair of
eyes in horrible, terrible danger. I'm

432
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:34.119
like the top comment here, Wizard
stop attacking my bird, but baddies will

433
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.400
stop attacking the bird if he stops
harassing us. Wizard, no baddies attack

434
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:45.240
bird. Wizard all shocked. Pakach
you face. So I'll take care of

435
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.400
the surface level stuff real quick and
we'll get to the implications here, because

436
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.200
I know where you're going to go
with this. The surface level stuff is

437
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.720
like, you know, you gave
your your player, you gave your character

438
00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.240
a disadvantage that's easily exploited, you
made a work around for it. You

439
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.200
try to to take advantage of your
workaround and to stop working in your favor.

440
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.680
You know, no one's surprised that
this ended up bad for you,

441
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.519
and you know it sucks that a
lot of your spells rely on a target

442
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.880
that you can see. I should
have thought about that. We play not

443
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:15.839
only in our games, but you
know, because I like a little more

444
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.480
learning tunes of my games, and
I kind of got this from shows like

445
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.720
net Pod where they'll have silly things, you know, from the real world

446
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.720
anachronistically in their game. But the
second that a player tries to make that

447
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.400
a combat advantage, suddenly that thing, that thing stops existing and stops working

448
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.839
how it's supposed to. You know. For example, the ukampan listening to

449
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.799
a player has a hot plate,
and it's just supposed to be a joke

450
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.240
that when they make food while they're
doing the rest and stuff, they can

451
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.359
heat stuff up on the hot plate. But he even says to them,

452
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.640
if you try for one second to
use the hot plate to heat someone's armor

453
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.279
up, you all of a sudden
don't have a hot plate anymore. Yeah.

454
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.559
Yeah, And it seems like that
where like, okay, we gave

455
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.839
you familiars that you can have eyes
so that you can play with this character

456
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:02.079
that that only sees through their familiar
and character concept wise, not the worst

457
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.240
I've heard. Kind of cool actually, But then you try to take combat

458
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.119
advantage of that, and you know, now we get to treat that thing

459
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.480
as as it's part of combat.
I do that we play are familiar as

460
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.799
too. People get attached to their
familiars and like, no, I want

461
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:15.599
to have a dog with me.
Okay, I don't want to kill the

462
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.359
dog. I don't want to kill
the dog. But if that dog is

463
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.039
now part of combat, kill the
dog. That's if that dog is part

464
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.759
of combat. Things dying in combat. It's not a dog. It's not

465
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.720
a dog. It's not a bird. It's not a lizard, it's not

466
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:35.640
a dragon. It is a spirit
that takes that shape. But I named

467
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.920
it like a dog's Yeah, okay, so now it's a dog a dog,

468
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.440
it's a dog shaped spirit. Jim, I'm gonna I'm just gonna take

469
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:47.519
a very cursory overview of what the
implications of this are, and that is

470
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.559
role playing as a disability that you
do not have. Exactly, yes,

471
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.680
get gamifying disability. I have a
real problem with that and would just would

472
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.599
just say no to that in the
game. So that is not to say

473
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.519
that you shouldn't play a character who
is in some way handicapped or who is

474
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.519
you know, dealing with you know, some kind of like like like congenital

475
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.160
you know, physical handicaps or something
like that. You can absolutely do that,

476
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.039
but that should be role playing and
it should be about the character.

477
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.440
You know, I hate to you
know, overcoming that that challenge in the

478
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:29.119
world, and it shouldn't have a
mechanical impact on what goes on in the

479
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:34.200
game. And just yeah, just
really to to to kind of turn that

480
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.160
and and man, nine times out
of ten when a player comes to me

481
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:46.039
with saying that they want some kind
of handicap like that, it's because they're

482
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.319
angling to be daredevil or something like
that, right, you know, they're

483
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.319
like, well, I'm blind,
but I see through my familiar and my

484
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:59.160
familiar has dark vision, right,
so that's it's like I have dark vision

485
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.240
now, and and like just that
you just got to say no to that.

486
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:06.920
No, no, no, no. Yeah. And the other thing

487
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.519
to keep in mind is that when
you are looking through the eyes and ears

488
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.840
of your familiar, you are blind
and death right, Like, that is

489
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.119
not a thing you can do in
the middle of a fight. That's the

490
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.280
thing you do when you are like
sitting down cross legged, guarded by your

491
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.199
friends. You cast your consciousness into
your familiar so they can, you know

492
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.639
whatever, explore the next room or
something like that. In the middle of

493
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.400
a fight, you're going to get
hosed. If you're trying to do right,

494
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.119
you're exploiting something there. Yeah,
I agree with that. And and

495
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:44.360
and just to you know, add
to that too, is to what you

496
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:49.960
said, Jim right, if you
if it's to make this character have more

497
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.480
depth, and it's a part of
the role play and everything else, that

498
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:58.960
makes sense. But I hear that
too. But but yeah, just to

499
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.000
try to like that, that's what
it seemed, was like, Oh,

500
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.280
I'm going to do that, and
then I'm going to be able to scam

501
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.760
the the you know, the familiar
can give them advantage. But I'm also

502
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.440
going to be you know, I'm
getting I'm getting my cake and I'm eating

503
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.440
it too. The type of things. And that's particularly that's a particularly and

504
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:21.280
like that's even worse than just like
playing a handicap like in an insensitive or

505
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.760
stereotypical way. That's like actually trying
to kind of game. It's like very

506
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.599
cynical to try and to yeah,
yeah, and and like I understand,

507
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.679
like because because my first thought was
like, well, you really you missed

508
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:40.960
out on something that's interesting to explore
if you will. Yeah, that's like,

509
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.320
oh I hadn't thought of the implications
of that, And so at least

510
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.880
you learned something right, right,
because you kind of went into it one

511
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.840
way and you're like, wow,
being blind isn't easy. I'm not daredevil.

512
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:59.000
I learned something today, yeah,
after school. But seriously, like

513
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.519
you like you really he did,
Like that's in my brain. I'm like,

514
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.679
man, I hadn't even thought of
that, Like, yeah, oh,

515
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:07.199
that's that's going to be interesting.
How how am I going to get

516
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.559
out of this one? Like within
the rules of the game, And yeah,

517
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.760
just the DM should have shut that
down. Yeah. Now that that's

518
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:22.719
not to say there's no room for
playing around characters and disabilities. There's actually

519
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.400
there's actually a Hohld mechanics for for
prosthetics and stuff like that. So it's

520
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.800
not like the games pretending they scenes
don't exist. Yeah, So like there's

521
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.159
the there's there's two parts of this. There's the insensitivity of thinking that someone

522
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.519
else's disability is a cool thing through
for you to role play, and taking

523
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.599
it into a direction that is that
can be problematic. There's no, there's

524
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.559
nothing in the story that says that
they did that in any other way.

525
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.559
They just did this is this is
just purely combat thing, which is the

526
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:51.679
other set of problems here, where
like, not only were you insensitive,

527
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.519
but you tried to cheese the rules
and now we're gonna yell at you.

528
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:58.880
Well, it seems like the GM
may have misunderstood the rules as well.

529
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:01.800
Yeah, well a little bit.
Yeah, but then but then trying to

530
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.400
correct Yeah, sure, but you
know, and let's let's take the load

531
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.440
of let's go back to surface level
here, where like you know, the

532
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.320
DM said, hey, if you
keep doing that, you're gonna have consequences,

533
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.480
and the player said, okay,
I'm going to keep doing that.

534
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.320
Oh my god, consequences. Yeah. By the way, if your DM

535
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.760
says there's going to be consequences,
get ready for consequences. Unless it's me,

536
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.000
then I just let you keep poking
poking the dragon like an idiot for

537
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.400
one dice, six dandles every time
piece. I love you. Yeah,

538
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:31.719
I think you know. Like,
like I said, there's nothing in the

539
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:37.440
story that that that that implies that
the player was taking this to a problematic

540
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.920
place outside of cheasing the rules.
But that is something absolutely consider if you're

541
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.440
going to be playing something that is, you know, not part of your

542
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.760
identity. I think that's I think
that's fair. And then cheating the rules,

543
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.400
you know, maybe just don't do
that and don't be surprised when the

544
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.719
DM does something that they say they're
going to do. I'm gonna take your

545
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.920
bird away, and then it took
the bird away. All right. So

546
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.079
that is some of the time RPG
horror stories for this month. I hope

547
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.639
we all learned something today, Yeah, something about ourselves and some about our

548
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.679
players. You better learned something,
Nick, I learned the three dissect new

549
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:16.199
things today. Yeah. I'm gonna
send this episode to Nick and be like,

550
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.920
oh, we're not gonna talk trash
better players, and then send it

551
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.159
to them. You Nick, you're
a muppet. I'm just happy that we

552
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.880
podcasted today that was yes too.
After a couple of weeks of not making

553
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.880
it podcast it, Yeah, I
had no regrets. I had a lot

554
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.800
of good barbecue in Austin. Sorry, sorry, not sorry, and I

555
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.679
got to do my little interview with
for DM TONI, which should have definitely

556
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.400
released my now So yeah, go
check that out or we'll release next No,

557
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:43.920
no, that'll be up. I
think by the time we do this

558
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:47.280
one, we're on it. I
guess. I suppose those are the options

559
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.199
I saw that show. So it's
all good, yes, all right,

560
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.400
So let's wrap this thing up.
If you have a story that you want

561
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.280
us to cover, you send it
to us at Hello Adventurers Podcast at gmail

562
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.239
dot com. We can tell us
a brief version of your story Hello Adventurers

563
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.679
Podcast dot com slash voice, and
we'd love to have you participate. Yeah,

564
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.800
that that's gonna do it for today. Jim, Joe, thank you

565
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.880
so much and thank you for listening
to you. Hello Adventures. We're your

566
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.320
host, Jason Portizo, Jim Crocker
and Joe McCall producer, editor an engineer

567
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.800
Jason Portiso. Music by an experior
artwork by christ and Broderick. You can

568
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.320
reach out to us with any feedback
or suggestions by emailing Hello Adventures podcast at

569
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:27.000
gmail dot com. Hello Adventures is
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570
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:29.480
It's bad bye if your name is
Nick,