New DM? Here's What You Need

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Hello Advent, Welcome to the next
episode. I'm Jason Bertizo from Jim Crocker.

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I'm Joe McCall, and we talked
about DANDIE topics, near and dear

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role players. Hearts today's episode.
We are talking about new DM resources.

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If it's your first time dming or
if you're a new DM, if you've

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got a few games under your belt, what do you need? What's what's

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going to get you from never dming
before into being the next great And nobody

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is more uniquely qualified to chime in
on this topic than Jim Crocker. Yeah,

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I've been dming for a long time
and one of the principal things that

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we did at the store was trying
to get new players interest in the game,

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and you know, after they'd been
playing for a while, get them

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to DM because we needed we needed
other dms into the store certainly, and

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that's also just you know, it's
the natural progression, and we want to

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make sure everybody was well prepared and
going to have a good time when they

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did it. So I see a
lot of scribbled notes here that so I

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want to know, what what do
you think new dms need to know,

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need to have what's your round level? Advice for getting started. One of

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the things that you talked about when
we talked about when we did our first

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episode was that one of the reasons
you like to run the games that you

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like to be a host. And
so that's one of the things to keep

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in mind is that as the DM, you're essentially the host of that social

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activity that's that's going on. And
so one of the things that I'll see

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people will sometimes kind of complain about, and like the Reddit threads and stuff

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like that, is, you know, why players expect me to do this

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for them, expect me to do
that for them, And there's actually a

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certain amount of stuff that it is
very hole for the players to expect you

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to do for them, especially if
they're new and they don't know what's going

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on with the game. And so
there's some things that made We're going to

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say some things here that may seem
real basic, but because we may be

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talking to people that have literally never
run a game of D and D before,

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or even if you have, you
might not have thought of this.

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We're just going to go kind of
go down the whole list, and I

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think the first thing that we want
to start with is if you are running

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D and D, you should own
the three core books, the Players Handbook,

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the Monster Manual, and the Dungeon
Master's Guide. You should have actual

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physical copies of those that you can
reference at the table and that you can

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hand around as you need to,
that you can flip through as you need

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to. Ebooks are great having those
in PDF. That's fantastic for you know,

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reading in between games. But I
am a firm believer that it's not

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a great way to run the game
at the table, especially if you're all

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I mean, it's one thing,
and I guess the other thing we should

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say here is that we're talking about
sitting around a table, face to face,

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physically playing a game in the same
space, as opposed to being online

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where you can have you know,
you can form a lot of that out

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to World twenty or whatever platform it
is that you're using. To you very

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very fair distinction. Yes, yeah, if I could please, I would

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just say that the one advantage of
the ebook or if you're using D and

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D beyond, is that it's searchable. So if you have ineffable yeah,

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and so control affable for your Windows
people out and also even on the app

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and search any of the books that
you own. So that's the one advantage

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that didn't have. But I agree
you should have the physical books as well.

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Yeah, you, and you can
leave bookmarks on a PDF also,

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But there's something having something about having
a physical hardcover with a bunch of post

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end note flags flapping off the side
of it, color coded to whatever class

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you need or whatever being giving you
the problems the most. But also because

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things happen with technology, right,
how many times have I been like my

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computer's about to die and had to
plug it? So every game, yes,

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every single one, I mean,
And I think the single biggest advantage

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is, especially if you're the DM, there's a lot of stuff you're going

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to be referring to regularly that players
aren't necessarily going to. If you know

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that that one player like has three
spells that they always use but they never

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remember what they are, you can
mark those in your book. And one

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of the things you can do with
the physical book is you can hand it

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across the table to someone. You
can say, Okay, while they're taking

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the turn, I'm going to have
you read about this class feature and here

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it is. It's the book is
open to you, and you know like

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I'm not saying, you know,
don't have those resources available, but I

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do think that I mean, and
the other problem of course with those devices

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is yeah, searchable, but then
you have the whole rest of the Internet

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on that as well. Just just
incredibly difficult, even for the most strong

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wild players when it it's not their
turn right to pay attention to what's going

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on in the game. And that's
the most important thing that you can do,

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especially with new players, is to
get them used to the idea that

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there's going to be times when it's
not their turn, but that doesn't mean

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that they don't have to stay focused
on the game, be attentive to the

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other players. Like one of the
basics is teaching good gaming habits and knowing

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what those gaming habits are and you
know, trying to kind of get those

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across. And I feel like having
those paper copies of the game, not

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everybody needs to have them, you
know, everybody at the table doesn't need

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to have the player stand book and
stuff like that. But being able to,

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like I said, being able to
hand it around that that's like,

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I feel like that's really important.
That's a really good point. Yeah,

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yeah, I've known at least one
or two the m's I think two that

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I know personally that in their travel
bag have like five or six copies of

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players handbooks. You can totally do
that. And they're they're like, if

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you don't mind getting like a used
copy somewhere there, you can get them

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dirt cheap. Uh. Yeah,
so they had them in paperback though,

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you know that. I will say
something that is that is something that Pathfinder

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did really right is having like the
pocket versions of it Essentials or whatever they

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were that they did. Yeah,
like the twenty five dollars, like like

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the slightly yeah sorry, I mean
but but they called it something like that.

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But yeah, it was like it
was like the smaller trim size,

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like yeah, yeah, Cobal Press
is good about that too. But there's

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Home of Beasts. They'll do the
pocket version. That's all same information as

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a small paperback group. But just
again, just hey, you know,

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while it's these three other people's turns, why don't you read a little bit

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more about that thing that you're trying
to Yeah? Uh, and you know,

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and and if you're going to run
the game, and I know,

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and I understand that people have different
economic situations and stuff like this, but

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like I said, you can find
them used. You can find them,

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you know, you know, you
can find somebody that's getting rid of theirs

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and you know, and and get
it from them. But you really should

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have if you're going to run the
game, the phis copies of what you're

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going to have, you know,
of those books to have at the table

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for a game. That is like
when you can start comparing this to like

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video, it's like, you know, I was, I was looking at

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buying a PlayStation last night. It's
like five hundred dollars for the PlayStation,

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sixty bucks for the game. Let's
let's forget the console for a second,

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but sixty bucks for the game.
You know, a book that you can

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get used for like twenty thirty bucks
or even less is a pretty low bar

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for entry. You amortize that over
the total number of D and D games

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you run. That's it's an incredibly
good value for your entertainment price per game.

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And that's something that's something we we
harp on in the board game world

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the other thing. So so let's
kind of keep going down the list.

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A few other few things I recommend
is, especially if you've got new players,

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have a couple of sets of dice
for yourself and make sure that when

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you show up at the table,
you have a set of dice for every

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layer. Some of them are gonna, you know, some of them are

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going to get super into it and
have eight or nine sets of their own,

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like right from the jump. Some
people are eight or nine. Those

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are rookie numbers. Yes, yeah, those numbers up son, Yeah,

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but uh, but some people are
going to forget them. Some people are

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gonna, you know, be coming
into the game straight from work and they're

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like, I didn't have time to
get last last night. Last night forgot

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I will say now as somebody who
is providing the game for everyone else,

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specially with new players who aren't sure
they want to do it. You know

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what's really cheap to buy dice?
Yes, so I keep with me.

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I keep both of these things,
and they're in my backpack right next to

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me. Like these are one hundred
percent true things I keep in my bag.

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I not only have a huge bag. I forget who makes this bag.

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It's awesome. It's like it's divided
into sections. I have them sectioned

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out by dice. There are forty
full sets of dice in this bag.

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Yeah, and whoever needs them,
grab it. If you're casting a fireball,

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got to get a handful. If
if you're sneak attacking, grab a

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handful. Sometimes you just have the
one set that you were, that you

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that you got, and you need
a whole bunch. And I don't want

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to watch somebody roll the six in
front of me eight times. Plus there's

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nothing more satisfied than that that that
chuck alaka of eight dice in your and

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as a DM, terrifying your player
bad amount of dice. Another thing that

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I got side note, I was
able to I had a level three one

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shot that I was running and I
quit on the inflict wounds against one of

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my players, and I had that
handful of sixty ten. It was to

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the point where my other player took
a video of me just making the little

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dull chuck a lucka sounds and yeah, I killed him. So but also

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so that's one thing I keep on
me is that those were communal dice.

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Anyone can borrow them, they go
back. I also are very cheap.

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Bought a lot of maybe eight or
ten complete sets with pouches, and I

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keep those in my bag and they
didn't cost me much. I think,

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I think I spent maybe ten twelve
dollars on these, and it's just just

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they sit aside. These are not
my dice, These are not communal dice.

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I don't have a player who's playing
for the first time and they had

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a good time. That's my gift
to them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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And we talked on the first episode
about creating that experience for new players

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and like, if I created experience
for you, here's your souvenir. If

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you want to like get into the
hobby, please let me gift you the

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most important part of that of that
first hurdle and you are now at die

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Scotland and I'm sorry for ruining your
life, but I love gifting people.

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Sure, that's great, yea,
yeah, yeah, two bucks. So

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one of the other things that you
can do is make sure that you've got

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a big stack of preprinted character sheets
ready to go for everybody. There may

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be like if somebody gets killed in
the middle of adventure and you need to

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you know, and they need to
do a new character having those handy ready

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critical perhaps if they took forty eight
points from a inflict critical wounds, yes,

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but just to have like like and
it's one of those things that you

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don't necessarily realize that you need until
you need it, and just having those

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handy ready to go all the time. You know, I'm a believer in

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for new players to think about holding
their character sheets for them at the end

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of the game, have them give
the character sheets back to you, and

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you give them out with every game, because that prevents that problem of like

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I said, I just came from
work, I forgot my character sheet.

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I didn't. You know, it
doesn't mean that like they can't work on

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them between games or something like that. Like if you trust them and we've

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kind of established that what's going on, you can do that. But but

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I really think that you know,
taking those sheets, putting them in some

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sheet protectors have a little notebook,
well, you know, where you keep

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all those characters in between games.
For new players, that's a smart thing

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to do because then then you're going
to make sure everybody's got their character and

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you don't run into that, oh
we need to take a half hour while

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somebody recreates their character or they're like
furiously scribbling in between other people's turns and

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stuff like that, which is,
by the way, yes, and that

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was one of them. So my
first game was a part of the starter

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set. We kept everything in the
box, and we need to level up

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our characters at the end of the
session or at the beginning of the next

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one. That time was always built
in. Yeah, and and like,

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and that absolutely does not prevent people
from doing that lonely fun thing of like

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pouring through the player sandbook determine what
their next is going to be and stuff

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again, and they can jot stuff
down and if they want to have their

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own second copy of that character sheet, that's great, totally do that.

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A little bit of redundancy never a
bad thing. But to hang on to

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those and to make sure you've got
those extra blanks, that's just you know,

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that's kind of basic supplies of the
game. And I mean this is

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super basic, but make sure you
got enough pens and pencils for everybody at

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the table. Jim, you are
now holding one of the pens that I

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keep aside just for d and d
yes. That is add pen. And

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this is a Pilot G two,
which is like one of the best only

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correct that anyone should ever buy.
This podcast brought to you by Pilot.

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I wish I love these, Yeah
that I bought a I bought a twelve

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pack of that exact pan. They're
my favorite. Yeah, you get it

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on Amazon for like five bucks.
Is the medium the medium size for the

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bold myself, but this is the
medium bould or medium and then though it

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just needs to get this we can
agree. I prefer both myself, but

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this is the medium. I bought
the extra ten pack just to keep my

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bad pack just for D and D. Also, there were all the same.

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I know their mind. I'll just
grab them at the end. Blue

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ink not black is if we do
a black and white photocopy, I want

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to know what is the original one? What is what has been written?

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That's been my move for for years and

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years now, with all sorts of
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life, all always blue always,
and then I keep a red pen for

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myself in the case I need to
correct somebody's characters. Big ass stack of

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index cards. That's the other thing
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the to some extent, that comes
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do a lot of we lot to
write a lot of stuff down on index

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cards, brought down on the table. If you've got you know, but

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you can use that for anything NPCs, You jot their name down, a

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couple of character traits, you throw
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hit points for your monsters and stuff
like that. I do initiative on

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the index cards. I just write
the initiative number like everybody's I keep a

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stack of index cards that has that
I keep kind of permanently that has a

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character the character's name on it,
and then I just jot down the initiative

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number. I put them in order
shuffle them around. If somebody decides that

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they're going to go later, I
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and just you can use them for
just about everything. I like to get

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the kind that are lined on one
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yeah, And you can also get
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five different colors, and then you
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for monsters, red, you know, blue for players, however you want

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to do that. But just having
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with those pens and pencils, and
that's pretty much everything you need to kind

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of just like run the game at
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actually the first thing you mentioned so
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I'm a as soon as you guys
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of people use them for initiative and
even like if you if you use the

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screen right, I think like fold
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stuff like that, all that kind
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like to do is to make sure
that everybody has either a little like half

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full of index card as a table
tent in front of them that has their

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character name on it, so that
when you look around the table and a

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cute little drawing. Of course,
you can put a cute little drawing if

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that's what you want, you know, but it might say, you know,

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whatever, what's your what's your barbarian? There? Corn Gar? You

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got corn Gar the blameless you know, human barbarian on your little table tent.

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Or to literally get those hello my
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slap them right on their teeth.
Oh my god, that would really coming

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fantastic because I definitely stumble and these
are people I play with all the time

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we used to do that. We
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at the store. It was a
little different when we were doing the ongoing

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games and kind of people got to
know who everybody's character was. But even

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then I made sure I did the
table tents. But yeah, we did

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a big event where like it was
a you know, like a book release,

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or we were doing one of our
like you know, eight hour kind

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of mega games, we would just
get to just get a stack of the

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those stickers and just hello, my
name is you know that's going on my

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shopping list right now? Brilliant.
Yeah, Well, we play on zooms.

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It's so easy. Okay, everybody, just update your your zoom names

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to their character names. Because I
am not memorizing your character names. I'm

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never going to call you by your
real name. So get those updated please,

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to the point where it became my
bult name for a while. So

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like I'm getting on like actual calls
with clients, you're having a job interview.

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Who's Cobo? Yeah, And I've
got that thing where because I play

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the multiple indie games online. I
jumped into my Star Trek game the other

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day, but I had a you
know, an Aliens Nostromo background. So

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I got crossing the streams. They
kicked you out. I had the one

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where I was I was a d
M and then get on a call with

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the client like why did I say
dungeon daddy? I tell my players,

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think players, I am no longer
dungeon daddy. I am your tabletop.

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thing that I would say for like
like basic, basic, if you're not

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messing around with with miniatures, with
maps, with any of that kind of

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you know that stuff that kind of
bumps to, you know, your investment

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up to the next level. Something
to roll dice in. It can be

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a fancy like like feltline dice tray, it can just be you know,

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a little cardboard box. What's something
that the players can toss the dice in

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that will keep them from rolling off
the table. And I guarantee you that

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will save you ten to fifteen minutes
of game time catching Yeah exactly, and

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you know and oh man, it
was twenty when it hit the ground,

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Like yeah, no counts on the
table. Sorry that. But but to

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have a little something that people can
roll dice into. I know you said

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you use one of those little dice
dice drop towers. I have a large

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dice tower that I three D printed
that looks awesome. Yeah, and if

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I can find the STL file for
it, and maybe we'll linked in the

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show notes. I also have a
much smaller dice tower that folds up pretty

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small. Yeah, and I like
this one. It's magnetic, It puts

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itself together, it folds. You
could fit a whole set of dice in

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it while it's closed, which I
like. I would recommend a rubber band

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on if you're doing that. But
I got this one because it's small.

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Not only does it travel nicely,
but when we play online, I could

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put a camera on it. And
and because it's a small space, the

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dice really filled the screen. It
looks great on camera because I had a

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larger dice tray for a while and
the dice were so small in the frame

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that I wanted something smaller. And
also the you mentioned the felt lines dice

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prays. I have the heck sagonal
ones yeah together yeah, yeah, they

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are totally flat, all six of
them stacked up takes a less than an

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interest space in my bag. Inexpense
I bought. I bought a six pack

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I don't remember how much I spent
on it, but it was not a

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lot. In fact, I've bought
several six packs. We were playing the

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game once a couple of years ago, Joe. It was one of the

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first times you and I played together, and I bought a four pack and

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I just they were cheap enough.
I'm like, hey, I'm going to

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give them to all the players,
and this is just my my little hello

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on looking before we're playing with you
guys, little gift. But it solves

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a number of problems because, like
it keeps dice from rolling off the table.

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It means dice get rolled in a
place where everybody can see what the

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results of the role are. And
one of the things that we found at

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the store, especially for those those
dice towers that we're talking about, was

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anybody that's neurotypical that has trouble with
you know, just kind of tossing the

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de to have it land in front
of them where they wanted to for whatever

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reason, just powers make it a
lot easier. We had a couple of

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kids that were on the autism spectrum
that like that was the best thing that

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they could just drop the die in
there. It would tumble down and they'd

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get a result, and like we
didn't have to worry about anybody getting upset

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because they were throwing their dice off
the table or anything like that. And

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so it's very very satisfying rattling sense. Even with one die. My brother's

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on a spectrum, it has a
very bad sha hands shocking from that would

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be great for him. Just a
quick search. Those are like between sixteen

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and twenty dollars for a six pack
of those hexagonal I keep the six pack

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in my bag and when I run
store games, they are snapped together,

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sitting at all the places with pens
and paper and the communal dice dice bag

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in the middle, and by the
time a single player walks in the table,

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looks like we are already The same
thing also happens at our home games

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that you host. I'm a host, all right, So I guess if

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we start talking about the next level
of investment, if you're going to be

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running games, and you're going to
be regularly running games, don't be afraid.

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And this is a little kind of
more general DM advice, don't be

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afraid to run pre published adventures,
especially if it's your first campaign or series

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of games. Totally. You do
not have to come up with some epic

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thing where you make it all up
yourself. You can just do a little

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bit of connective tissue that help those
pre published adventures run together. So get

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yourself a printed copy of it,
even if you're running it off of a

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PDF or something like that, printed
out so that you've got the monster stats

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there you and then grab that piner
pencil market right the heck up. Don't

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worry about just like writing in it, cross things out, put your notes

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right in the margins, all that
kind of stuff. Have that paper right

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in front of you. I think
if you have the right kind of players,

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then you're running the game openly and
everybody's collaborating. You don't need to

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have a DM screen. You can
if you want to, but I think

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like if you if you want it, it should be because it's got information

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on it that you're going to refer
to regularly. It's fairly easy if you

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want to, you know, conceal
information to have a little We talked about

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having a little trade table off to
the side or something like that. But

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for the most part, you know, if you're just kind of running and

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keeping the game going, you don't
have to worry too too much about things

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being secret because that that screen can
also I mean it's also a barrier and

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it takes up a lot of space
on the tape. It does, it

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does, you totally can do it. But I just want to make sure

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everybody knows it's not like essential to
running the game. It's not a thing

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you have. Yeah, it is
nice for the information I use it,

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yeah, constantly, for the amount
of branded screen that comes with the set

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of three Core books. Has a
lot of excellent information on the on the

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back of it that saves me from
looking up a lot of things. There's

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a couple of things that I still
have to look up that comes up pretty

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often, and I'm surprised not on
there. I think I can't think of

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any of these post It's on there
as well. Yeah, of course,

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and especially for things like past perception, I'll have the characters listed passive perceptions

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so I can have that at a
glance. Yeah, that's character stuff.

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Yeah, I'm being mechanics stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. I have a wooden

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DM screen that I had made.
The back of it is totally blank,

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but it does have magnets on it. Yeah, so I can I can

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get I can print those specifically what
I need, pin the magnet to it,

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sly flourish I think. Actually,
yeah, offers those online. Yeah,

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and you can get the ones that's
like three panels that you can slide

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and it half by eleven piece of
paper into and stuff like that, and

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all of that is great, and
if you're going to use the screen,

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then post it's become one of those
essential office supplies that you want to.

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Like, if you're using the screen, absolutely you should have your export de

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cards with tape and magnets, yeah, or some way to attach those index

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cards. The other thing that you
can that are pretty great if you're going

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to be using stuff like that is
colored paper clips. Color coded paper clips,

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either like little whatever, like little
banana clips or like actual paper clips,

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because then you can you can make
a little thing where you can make

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an initiative slider or you can have
you know, use those to indicate conditions

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and things like that. If you're
flipping through your index cards, you know,

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anybody that's got a green paper clip, that means they're paralyzed or you

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know, like yeah, that kind
of stuff. Colored binder clips is good

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for that too. You can just
go right to the top of your a

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DM screen if you're using one,
or if you are printing out your PDF

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for that day's adventure, you can
use them to make a binder out of

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it, a color coding them for
the same reason. So you have your

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the index card with each character's ac
passive perception on it and their name because

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I'm going to forget it. And
then you can use the color codes for

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ever poison and its usion, etc. Or whatever else. And while we're

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talking about printing out PDFs, A
big fan of spending a couple extra bucks

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to buy a few reams of free
three whole punch paper that you can put

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into your printer. Which, again
some of this stuff may sound very basic,

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but if you're not used to it
or not familiar with it, you

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print out that PDF, you can
throw it right into a three ring binder.

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Then it's easy to flip through.
You can take out the bits that

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you need, put in the bits
that you need as you go. I

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instid, I just spent a couple
of dollars on the three whole punch and

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you know, get it when I
need it instead of having changed paper over.

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You can do that too, But
either either one whereas or actually for

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the one shot of ventures, I
just use the the plastic with the three

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rings on them by the paper,
the paper sleeves. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Like page protectors do that too,
Yeah, if you don't mind the

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work of sliding them in there,
because the great thing about putting them in

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page protectors is then when they're in
the page protectors, you can take notes

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using dry erase markers. Yes,
and you know, and and and then

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you're not marking up that that document
use again. Yeah, yeah, especially

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if you're running the same scenario over
and over again. And this is kind

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of a lot you're gonna you're gonna
find a lot of my advice is for

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like store level dos that are running
the same thing over and over. Yeah,

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because I get I get a lot
of mileage yet out of the one

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shots that I find. And if
you don't mind spending a couple extra bucks

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on your index cards, you can
go to Amazon or Staples or any of

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your office supply places and get laminated
dry erase index cards which will have and

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the ones that I have are blank
on one side with a grid on the

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other. Wow, which is real
nice because then you can find the lap

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exactly. Yes, if that's what
you want to do. But they're great

410
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.519
because then you can, you know, you just like like I said,

411
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.599
you throw them out on the table, you write down the name of that

412
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.400
NPC, they leave the shop,
you just wipe it off of there and

413
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.279
you can reuse them as you do. That's great, that's cool. I

414
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.240
didn't consider. Yeah, comes a
little plastic case with a little you know,

415
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dry race marker in there. Hello
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We appreciate your listening. Now back
to the show. So if you're going

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to take it to the next level, and do you know maps minis that

425
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:27.119
kind of stuff. It is very
easy to spend an infinite amount of money,

426
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:33.400
extremely easy and that's like just incredibly. I don't think infinite even begins

427
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:34.680
to describe how much money you could
drop on this. Yeah, you start

428
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.960
buying like the blind box sets of
minis and things like that, and they're

429
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.640
amazing. It's fantastic and you have
a lot of fun with it. Agree,

430
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.279
But if you just want to have
enough of the basics to run kind

431
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:51.160
of whatever you want to run,
what I recommend folks do is you get

432
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:56.480
a single large battle map, like
something you kind of unfold on your table.

433
00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.960
Chessix makes them. There's a whole
lot of generic companies that make them

434
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.839
on the chessis one I see all
the time, Amazon and stuff like that.

435
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.920
And typically those are going to be
like, if it's a vinyl rollout

436
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.680
mat, it's going to be wet
for race markers that you use on that.

437
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.079
If it's something that is like laminated
paper, you can use wet ord

438
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.640
dryer race markers on that. But
you get yourself a big mat that is

439
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:23.279
kind of the basic thing that you
can use all the time, or you

440
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.799
can get I mean, if you've
got room and you're hosting at your house,

441
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:33.000
you can get kind of easel pad
sized one by one inch square like

442
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:38.599
big pads that will either tear off
or I mean some of them actually come

443
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:45.279
with the like the post it sticky
across the top, which means you can

444
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.720
draw your map out in advance and
then slap it up on the wall so

445
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.559
that people can see what's going on
with it, whether and then whether you're

446
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.680
going to add to it, you
know, you know, right on it

447
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.559
as you go or not. That's
the thing you can do. But you

448
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.640
can also just lay that down on
the draw on it as you go.

449
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.960
And then I recommend you know,
you've got your set of pens that you

450
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.480
can use, get it in you
know, like four or five colors,

451
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.359
so we can have you know,
blue as the water and red as the

452
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.319
lava, and you know green is
where the forest is, stuff like that.

453
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:22.119
And then I really recommend just from
Watsa. Watsa does three dungeon pile

454
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.920
sets and you can find those fairly
cheap. But yeah, I have a

455
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:32.480
few things like that. There's the
oaks from books from Lake battle Mats that

456
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:33.680
have like all the battle mass built
into them. There's a dry erase,

457
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.279
they're all dry erasable. There is
a plank white grid on there that you

458
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.359
can use for really anything and draw
it out as you need. But that's

459
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.240
that's kind of getting a little more. Yeah. I have other battle mats

460
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:48.759
though, they'll sometimes they'll be blank, or they'll be like forest on one

461
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.240
side, yeah, like ice on
the other or something like that. So

462
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.880
they'll give you a yeah, two
different things. The other thing too was

463
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.880
it doesn't have the one by one
grid, but I've seen it used.

464
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.920
It's just a dry erase or that. You can totally do that with just

465
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.440
kind of draw to show you in
relation kind of where you are and if

466
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.960
you're not as worried about the specifics
of it. Yeah, the life fact

467
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.640
that I heard go to the dollar
store, get yourself from wrapping paper and

468
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.640
a lot of wrapping paper has the
one grid on the back. Flip it

469
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.039
over. Sure, Yeah, that
totally works. The butt to draw,

470
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.519
I guess not with a mark Yeah, you have to be with a marker.

471
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.799
But this is like if you're like
experimenting with minis and you're not really

472
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.359
sure there's a direction you want to
go if you want if you're not sure,

473
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.000
if you want to stick with theater
the mind or not. This is

474
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.960
a very cheap way to try it. And this is where if you're lucky

475
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.559
enough to have a fancy dining room
table that has a glass top, you

476
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:47.440
can lift the glass top, put
the grid underneath it, and then and

477
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.559
then move the minis around and stuff
like that. Just remember Jim Crocker,

478
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:55.559
do that with your parents house.
You don't you don't want to actually draw

479
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.640
on the glass tabletop. This is
your map is already ready to go.

480
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.759
If you're going to do that piece
of christ make sure that they're dry erase

481
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:07.799
markers. Yeah, but you start
getting emails about people with their sharpiets.

482
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.119
No, no, that coup parents. But you can also do that with

483
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.359
a like a cheap piece of Plexi
on your regular table as well. I

484
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.359
mean, and this is this is
like advanced level stuff. But I'm a

485
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:25.559
big fan of those tiles because the
tiles are a big set of like dungeon

486
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.920
features, like dungeon corridors and you
know, town squares and wilderness settings and

487
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.920
stuff like that. They're modular,
so you got like a little cup hoops

488
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:40.519
of trees or something like that.
Those battle matt books are okay, but

489
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:41.599
a lot of times you're going to
look at that map and you're going to

490
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.279
go, that's super cool. I'm
going to use it twice in the entire

491
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.519
campaign. But those modular tile sets
you can kind of do whatever you want

492
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.160
with them, arrange them however you
want. And like when I ran in

493
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.960
the store, I ran for ten
years on a basic battle mat and the

494
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.839
three tile sets, the wilderness set, the city set, and the dungeon

495
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.759
set, and that was all I
needed because you know, and then you

496
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.079
supplement it with a little you know, if you have a really weird ship,

497
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.559
Pa've just draw it in and you
mix and match and and that is

498
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:17.039
all the terrain that you will ever
need, you know, I mean,

499
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.240
And of course again if you want
to start getting into like you know,

500
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:29.920
actual molded three D resins set,
you know, like you said, aunt,

501
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.680
yeah, but like like you can
do a battle map, you can

502
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.000
do a battle map and find those
three tile sets for you know, maybe

503
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.839
fifty sixty bucks if you're lucky,
certainly under one hundred all three of them

504
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.400
together. Yes, oh yeah,
yeah, they're they're about twenty dollars.

505
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
like twenty bucks a throw. But that

506
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.559
is all you will ever, that's
all you will ever need, yes,

507
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.519
yeah, yeah, if you've got
you've got a map and some If you've

508
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.440
got a basic battle map and and
something right with, that's fine, that's

509
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.680
all you need, and your players
are going to fill in everything else in

510
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:05.599
the end with you know, with
their imaginations. So for minis, that

511
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.160
is another place where if you want
to, like that can turn into a

512
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.759
whole separate hobby, if you want
to do that, if you want to

513
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.759
get them and paint them and all
that kind of thing. But just for

514
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.759
the basics of playing the game.
Every now and then, we're going to

515
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.880
talk a little bit about Pathfinder.
One of the things that PISO does really

516
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:30.359
really well is providing supplemental materials for
playing, you know, for playing Pathfinder

517
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:37.160
with and for Pathfinder you can get
humongous sets of for Pathfinder, you can

518
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.799
get these token sets and you can
get hundreds and hundreds of tokens, and

519
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.480
what they are is it's going to
be a little cardboard standee about the size

520
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.039
of mini to slap a little plastic
base on the bottom of it, and

521
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.839
if you get there, you know, their best cherry set, get like

522
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.319
a thousand tokens in there, and
it's going to have characters. It's going

523
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.519
to have all kinds of monsters,
and they're going to look like the proprietary

524
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.720
Pizo version of it. But you
know, like a big token of a

525
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.720
dragon is a big token of a
dragon, or and a token you know,

526
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.319
half a dozen little goblin tokens are
are recognizably goblins. And that's a

527
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:15.599
great way to get a full set
of everything you need to start doing maps

528
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.720
and minis in a basic kind of
way, and you can probably score those

529
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.480
pretty cheaply online you know, secondary
market and you know, and just you

530
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.759
know, through Amazon and stuff like
this in a way that's going to get

531
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:35.160
you what amounts to a complete minis
collection for what you know, like through

532
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.799
three four of those blind boxes that
you would get from WATSI the have the

533
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.519
pre painted minis that you know that
come in there. You don't need Joe

534
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.559
Manjanello's basement, Like if you've ever
seen this miniature collection, it's insane and

535
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.119
I'm sure it's worth a million dollars, Like, yeah, it's all And

536
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.279
if you do decide you want to
get into that stuff, then you should

537
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:59.119
not feel shame about playing with unpainted
minis and eBay, you know, like

538
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:04.640
like online market places. Because of
the way those blind boxes work, people

539
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.000
will open lots of them to get
the rares well as a magic player,

540
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.639
you know, if all you want
is a bunch of orcs and goblins and

541
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.639
basic you know characters and stuff like
rogues and whatever, you can find very

542
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:22.039
cheap sets of the big bags of
those common minis. And then if you

543
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.280
want to have one special dragon for
that big fight, you can get that

544
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.920
one special dragon for that big fight
and have that be a thing that you

545
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.000
know, you plunk it down on
the table, everybody oos an os,

546
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.519
they fight the dragon, and maybe
you don't use it again, you know,

547
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.880
anytime soon. But that's a cool
thing you can put on your shelf

548
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.440
with your gaming books and have it
be a fun thing that you own.

549
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.440
But you don't have to have,
you know, a mini for every thing

550
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:51.760
that the characters are are coming up
against in that game. And those the

551
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.639
tokens are great. They look fantastic. You know, if you really want

552
00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.800
to, you can just print that
out, you know, rapital around a

553
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.199
little piece of hardboard, or do
a little thing where you make a little

554
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.760
tent out of it. But we
used to do, i mean what we

555
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.679
used to do back in college when
we were playing our superhero game and they

556
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.280
didn't have any Superhero minis was we
would print them in the right size and

557
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.320
then fold them, put a little
penny in the bottom to give it a

558
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.880
weight, so that we had like
a little triangle with you know, with

559
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.360
that weight on the bottom. And
that is what we used for our minis

560
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.559
mom around and stuff like that.
There's all kinds of creative solutions you can

561
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.159
come up with for very cheap.
I found that one inch wooden coins in

562
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.519
a bag of like two hundred,
Yeah, and to bind that with a

563
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.400
printable one inch round label sheet.
Sure, and just throw my work on

564
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.719
it in the photoshop or whatever and
print them all up and then just stick

565
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.760
them all there. Yeah, that's
great because you can get you can certainly

566
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.960
get pads of stickers one inch stickers
where you can you know, run those

567
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.639
through your printer and print those out
on And that's another way to do it

568
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.079
if you don't mind those like those
flat tokens. But those pizo tokens are

569
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:58.519
actually they actually stand up to the
hype of a regular mini and I think

570
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.400
they work great. I mean beyond
that, just you know, listen to

571
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.360
podcasts like this one maybe uh,
you know, like I hesitate to recommend

572
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:12.800
a lot of aps because you want
to make sure that you are listening to

573
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.880
things that are helping you learn how
to run the game. And some of

574
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:22.639
those aps are more kind of performance
oriented, that may not be the thing

575
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.639
that you need. So I think
listening to those knowing that, yeah,

576
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.599
I think it is still helpfulk I
learned a ton and got the confidence to

577
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.679
run my first couple of games from
listening to those shows. And also,

578
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.519
you know, I know that they
cut out a lot of the a lot

579
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.440
of the math, and like you
don't really know what all their modifiers are,

580
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.239
and like, because that's because that's
boring radio. Meanwhile, I is

581
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.239
aspiring DM. I'd be like,
but I won't know how he got that,

582
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:49.400
Like how do you roll thirty two? I mean it's it's it's boring

583
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.360
radio for some people. But if
what you want is to learn the game,

584
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.599
yeah, then then that Actually,
you know, some interesting shows are

585
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.159
better than others about cutting out or
were more so leaving in their die rolls

586
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.519
and stuff like that. So find
when that works for you if that's your

587
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.159
list. Jim, I've got a
couple of my own. I think I

588
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.760
think that's that's the basics, that's
the stuff. Yeah, like those things

589
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.719
that I listed were the things I
always had with me when I ran at

590
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.559
the store, and when kids would
say what do I need? I don't

591
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.840
have a fortune to spend, I'd
go this, this, and this,

592
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.960
and it's pretty much those things that
I'd listed that I would use to get

593
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.360
them started. What would you say
based on exactly you just said? What

594
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:29.719
would you say would be like the
first let's say four or five things in

595
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:34.960
in what even say in order that
a new DM should be looking for?

596
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.599
I mean, like I think in
the order that we went, you want

597
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.639
the three core books. You want
the character sheets for everybody. You want

598
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.280
everybody to have dice, pens,
pencils, index cards. If you've got

599
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:50.599
those you can play. Yeah,
that's totally fair. So I made a

600
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.599
list too, It's not it goes
in a slightly different directions, so I'll

601
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.440
just I'll just go through it quickly
for things that we've already talked about.

602
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.719
Number one is your official sources.
Start with your Core trio. That's your

603
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.280
players Handbook, your Dunge Master's Guide, and your Monster Manual. I also

604
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.320
added the supplemental Trio, which Wizards
has as Atasha's Squadron of Everything Santa Thar's

605
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.880
guides everything and either and they kind
of way one kind of replaced the other.

606
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:19.519
You got more than conans and monsters
in the multiverse. Monsters multi use

607
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.320
kind of replaced more than conans,
which replaced the Volos guds, which replaced

608
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.480
Volos. Yeah, so Atasha's and
Santa Tars do add a lot of excellent

609
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.159
information to supplement the core trio.
But like that's that's later. But if

610
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.880
you're going to get those are the
first things the players are going to harass

611
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:38.840
you about wanting to take things exactly. Tasha's adds a lot of subclasses and

612
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.280
some like some some alternate rules and
the optional rules, the class features like

613
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.880
optional class features and and background and
stuff, would just to say stuff that

614
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.400
beginning dms don't necessarily need. Yeah, and if you're a new DM and

615
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:53.599
all you have is the Court Trio
and a player says, hey, I

616
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.880
want to do this thing at Tasha's, you say, hey, I'm not

617
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.480
there yet. I gotta we gotta
stick to players handbook stuff. And if

618
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:01.480
they raise us, think about it, they can go find another DM.

619
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.480
It's not worth your time. So
that's I would say, get the Court

620
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.360
trio first. Learn them, know
them, love them, and then start.

621
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:14.360
I would get the supplemental books after
that as your first for outside of

622
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.039
the court, and then you can
do your campaign books. So really whenever

623
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.880
you're ready to run that campaign,
if you want to run the book campaign.

624
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.760
Strata is A is a fantastic one
everon is Jim Sandasy was his favorite.

625
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:29.480
I love the ones that are like
the connected one shot types. I

626
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:35.000
think they're fantastic for new dms.
Campo Keep Mysteries is a book of connected

627
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.280
one shots, so you run them
as part of a larger campaign, depending

628
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.079
what level you're at. You just
pick the one that's already and you know,

629
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.679
and you can just run one right
after the other and just go through

630
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.159
the Cambic Keep books. There's a
few books like that. I believe Strick

631
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.000
Shaven is also like that. I
don't know that for sure. There's a

632
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.719
Strixaban has that thing where players that
are new to D and D who are

633
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:04.079
Harry Potters how those stories work,
and it's a real good way to kind

634
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760
of then get them into gaming because
you can run the sort of story because

635
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:13.320
not everybody who starts playing D and
D has read the Tolkien and the other

636
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.840
you know whatever in the Fritz liber
that's kind of the original source material for

637
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.039
D and D or whatever, you
know, or played Dragon Age or something

638
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.519
like that. I'm one of those
people Game of Thrones. But yeah,

639
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.039
but if you start with strict saban
then like you know, kids that like

640
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.119
they know that Harry Potter structure and
the kinds of stories to expect, and

641
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.480
it's a great way to kind of
you know, ease them into that other

642
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.920
kind of storytelling them. And that's
to say that there's that there's going to

643
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.800
be a book in a in a
setting, in a style that should hook

644
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.599
really any fantasy. Yeah. So
if their Hiper Potter kids get run stricks

645
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.159
Saving, if they are into horror, run strad. I mean you can

646
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.280
go down the list like this.
So those they're magic players, you can

647
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.599
run rafn cut. Yeah. Yeah, that almost got me. So that's

648
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.000
for official sources. I have some
third party books that I think new dms

649
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.280
should absolutely own that any of the
Tooma Beast books from Cobol Press. I

650
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.679
those are just really expansions on a
monster manual. If you want to throw

651
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.880
some monsters in there that the players
might not expect or have just been like

652
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.760
kind of really tailored to be interesting. That's just I think that is the

653
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.559
next supplemental series to get. There's
three of them out at the time of

654
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.239
this recording, and I will never
stop championing this book for new dms,

655
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.400
get the Keith of Mont series.
The monsters know what they're doing, knowing

656
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.639
what a monster is capable of doing, versus how a monster would fight if

657
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.199
you were that monster. This is
this is like one oh one on how

658
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.960
to DM that particular monster type.
And I like new DMS running a Monster

659
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.679
of the Week style campaign where you
just like pick a monster or pick a

660
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.840
type of monster, and your whole
little one shot is based on those things.

661
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:50.280
They come across. The players come
across a little one, and then

662
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.800
a couple of them, and then
like a couple more, and then a

663
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.880
big version of it at the end, and they almost write themselves. And

664
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.079
all you got to do is just
read Monsters know what they're doing for a

665
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.159
one monster fifteen minutes to learn to
have it learning, and it's super easy

666
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.880
to get started, like the Perfect
Bathroom book. Honestly, yeah, they're

667
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.800
great. I have some further reading
if you want to improve your dming skills.

668
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.480
I have had to be a great
DM by Guys Glanders. How to

669
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:17.360
write Adventure modules that don't suck by
Goodman Games, Great excellent buckget him.

670
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.880
You got me hooked on that book. And also it looks awesome. Yeah,

671
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.199
it's got the classic like composition,
like like black and white splatter cover

672
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.119
with his gold foiling on. It
is such a cool book that even if

673
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.440
you just even just buy keep on
your shelf and just leave it there,

674
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:31.480
you should read it. But I
mean, like if for different enough to

675
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.559
else, it looks awesome. And
yes, I'm absolutely judging your book by

676
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.360
its cover. The Low Adventures podcast
at gmail dot com tell me how that's

677
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.519
a bad thing. So and I'm
a lazy DM guy by slife flourish once

678
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.480
you get a couple of games under
your belt. Lazy DM Guide is not

679
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.719
necessarily for new dms, but it
is it will get you from your first

680
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:57.480
couple of games into preparing better.
I see a looking give me. I

681
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.880
think I have a hot take on
that. Mike himself in the book says

682
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.599
this is not this is not for
your first time I can I can disagree

683
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.360
with that, please, and here's
why for your first time you obviously should

684
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.639
you know you have to be comfortable
with the core material, with the rules.

685
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.360
However, I think that prep can
be really intimidating to a new DM,

686
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.960
and this really kind of dumbs it
down, for lack of a better

687
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.280
term, like, hey, you
don't have to be so intimidated by this,

688
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:29.440
streamlines it, and he has changed
his tune between the first printing of

689
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:35.840
Lazy DMTN, subsequent ones of like
and even now like on his podcast where

690
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.159
he says like, well, Okay, maybe maybe fifteen minutes to thirty minutes

691
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.840
isn't enough prep, And I probably
tend to agree with that, but he

692
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.159
really kind of streamlines that process and
gets you thinking about, okay, like

693
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:52.000
what are the really important parts of
what I do? As I think I

694
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:59.719
mentioned in one of our previous episodes
was that I like the improv aspect that

695
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.199
that kind of leads leaves it open. So for me, I did read

696
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:07.800
that kind of early on and it
helped me relax in my prep and like,

697
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.440
Okay, I don't need to prep
for every Sure, I kind of

698
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.440
have some big ideas and some some
story beats that I know I want to

699
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.119
hit and how we get there doesn't
really matter, because you guys don't know

700
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.599
what's in the next town over.
Yeah, And I would say I got

701
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:24.119
that book very early on as one
of the first third party books that I

702
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.480
owned that I might have even been
based on your suggestion, and a lot

703
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.039
of it didn't make sense to me
as a new DM because I didn't know

704
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.000
what I was streamlining and what I
was shortcutting. Right, So I think

705
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.159
I think it's also worth making the
distinction here between if you are a new

706
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:45.880
DM who has played some and then
you're going to DM as opposed to let's

707
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.519
all play D and D we've never
played it before. I guess I'm the

708
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.880
dungeon master. Yeah, you're right, different kinds of advice, that's yeah.

709
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.320
So I'll say that that is that
is very good further reading, but

710
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:01.320
I wouldn't start with it. Yeah. The last thing I have here is

711
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.760
I have a title campaign Ideas,
and it's a less campaigns, a little

712
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.440
bit more towards I kind of lean
towards one shots for new dms at least

713
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.400
that you get your feet wet until
you start doing something longer. So the

714
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.119
the resources I have here, there
is a document called one page one shots

715
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:22.199
that I found on dms Guild for
very cheap, and it's a page full

716
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.679
of I'm not gonna say fully fleshed
out, but mostly fleshed out one shots

717
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:30.280
that all fits on one page uses
a canography to to kind of get the

718
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.599
idea of it. What kind of
campaign is this? What levels and what

719
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.559
type of player should you be?
Is this going to be a loop thinger?

720
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.320
Is this going to be like a
story thing? And stuff like that.

721
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.000
And then there's another document on how
to write your own one page one

722
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.159
shot that I've been using a lot
recently. And also along with that one

723
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.599
page one shots also pulls from this
other book that I also got on DM's

724
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.199
guild. They kind of like,
I don't know if it's the same authors.

725
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.400
I don't have them in front of
me. I apologize, but they

726
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:00.679
one page one shots uses tactics from
this book called the Five Room Dungeon.

727
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:05.840
Five Room Dungeon is a great design
excel Yeah, excellent both Yeah, and

728
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:07.599
it's just a quick, cool light
like two page. Oh no, I

729
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.760
actually know this one. This one, it's a very long book because the

730
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.519
parts where it teaches you how to
build them is like ten twelve pages,

731
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:15.840
and then it's hundreds of pages of
ones that they built for you, so

732
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.840
totally worth dollars. Absolutely go get
the five Room Dungeon one page one shots

733
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.800
will do either five room dungeons or
a play in three acts. Is how

734
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:28.280
they is how they frame all their
one shots. And I think there's actually

735
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.079
two of these books and there's like
a well a dozen in each one.

736
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.960
Super worth it. I would start
here. But there's also some creators that

737
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.079
will do nothing but just pumped out
one shots. And I'm not gonna do

738
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.800
nothing, but they make a lot
of one shot material. My favorite is

739
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.320
DM Dave. I'm a follower on
his patreon. A lot of the games

740
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.440
that I run at the store have
come from his. He does a lot

741
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.280
of like free Monster the Week type
of stuff. He even put out a

742
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.679
poll to his patrons to see,
you know, which are these monsters you

743
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.199
want to see next? And of
course I vote Mimic every time, and

744
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.440
that's how I ran the Mimic Museum, which is still my fa Actually got

745
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.760
the Unicorn Islands was my favorite ones
that was just awesome. Excellent creator and

746
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.360
that he works with. A map
maker would be a fantasy cartographer would be

747
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.079
it'll be the job title who makes
excellent maps that get put in these bs

748
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:19.000
also, which I then put into
I'll print out and use it on a

749
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.800
table. And if you're a DM
looking for your first one shot and you've

750
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.159
never done it before and you want
something easy and fun, I cannot recommend

751
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:32.559
enough the Wild Sheep Chase. I
have run this one shot no less than

752
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:36.920
ten times at this point with all
new players every time, even players who

753
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.519
have played it before, like a
player that's new to me and they've played

754
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:43.480
it with other people before. Everyone
just got their own little flavor on it.

755
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.079
And it's not uncommon for a player
to have come across this before.

756
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.880
It's fun. There's a very just
creative twist in the last act. And

757
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.599
this was my first time ever dming
anything. Oh wow, that's was the

758
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.559
first thing I ever ran. Joe
is unavailable one night and we want to

759
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:02.599
play any So I ran this game
for everyone while we were still locked up

760
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.719
from covid D. I've been dming
ever since because this was just it was

761
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.920
just put out just so accessible for
someone who's never Yeah, and that's a

762
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.760
thing that especially for new dms like
this is a thing that I learned was

763
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.440
that have that go to adventure so
that if you find yourself in a situation

764
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:28.800
where just for whatever reason, people
like like you've got a group of people

765
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.639
they want to play D and D
and you know, have that adventure ready

766
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:36.320
to go, have five pre printed
character sheets and just hand to them,

767
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:37.880
you know. I mean, if
you're serious about it and you really want

768
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.280
to be, you know, ready
to run at any time. That that's

769
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.320
another thing you can carry around with
you as a stack of pre printed character

770
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.760
sheets ready to go. So just
hand them out the people, run it

771
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.880
and go. So Wizards of the
Coast has officially made yeah, premier characters,

772
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.119
like for every levels. It's at
least one of every class and levels

773
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:00.000
one through ten. Yeah. Wow, Yeah, they're available out there.

774
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.000
Yeah, print them out and I
have all the pdf saved so anytime I

775
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.199
can spect. Okay, here here
they are, send it to. If

776
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:07.599
we're just hanging around, just send
it to a friend's printer. I have

777
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.679
a tiny set of dice that I
keep on my keys. Yeah, and

778
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.960
I know there's I'm just ready to
go. And I also want to make

779
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.039
the case for no kidding, if
you are new to the game, then

780
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:22.320
you are running for the first time, you absolutely can do much worse.

781
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.239
I mean like, like all of
these third party things are great, but

782
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.000
you can get a really good,
full, complete campaign out of any of

783
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:35.599
the pre published mega adventures. You
know, you can just throw down Cursustrade

784
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.559
and you've got a couple of years
of gaming, if you know, kidding,

785
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.199
go all the way through that thing. You know, Dragons of Ice,

786
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.360
Dragons of Ice, fire peet,
any of those and they'll work right,

787
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.599
you know, the the Eborn book, the strict Saban book, They're

788
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.280
like that material is all there.
You don't have to go searching for this

789
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.360
stuff. No, if you just
want to run it right out of the

790
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:59.280
book, there's plenty there to do
that way. And the starter sets too,

791
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.360
you know as somebody that the first
my first time playing D and D

792
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.559
was one of the starter sets.
Like they're they're great. They give you

793
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.920
a great kind of overview of the
game and things that you're going to need

794
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.360
and upgraating your character and everything else. So and from a DM perspective,

795
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:20.320
they give you a lot of good
tips. And I guess this is this

796
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.280
is another place to say where if
you're new kidding listening to this for the

797
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:27.079
first time with like no idea about
what's going on with D and D.

798
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.280
That twenty twenty five dollars basic set
is an amazing introduction to D and D.

799
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.119
It is a great place to start
just to see if you like it

800
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.719
because it's got everything you need to
you know, to run like a couple

801
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.440
of three levels worth. And if
you decide you love it, yeah,

802
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.599
then you can invest the money in
a but boy as a as a sampler.

803
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:51.159
It's less than taking a friend to
the movies to get that basic set

804
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.280
and just you know, get only
other thing to need this dice. Yep.

805
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.639
So I think this is a great
place to end it here. We've

806
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.199
got a ton of information out there, so let's just like real quick just

807
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.480
to recap all the recommendations we made. So if you are a brand new

808
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.079
DM, never DN before, Jim, just quickly have things that you recommended,

809
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:13.360
physical copies of the three core books, blank character sheets enough for everybody

810
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.440
at the table, set a dice
for you and everyone else at the table,

811
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.599
pens and pencils for everybody that might
be their big stack index cards.

812
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.000
That's everything you need to run D
and D without any of the extra bells

813
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.679
and whistles. If you want to
keep going out from there, the supplemental

814
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:31.440
trio. Tasha's Aatars and of the
Multiverse is great to go from there the

815
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Keitha mon Books and the Tomophoes you're
looking for more interesting monsters. How to

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Be Agree with the MP by Guys
Clanders as far. Also how to Write

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Adventure Modules that Don't Suck by Goodman
Games and the Lazy dms got by slid

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Flourish are all excellent third party books
to think about better DM once you get

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started. If you're looking for quick
one shot ideas just to get people playing

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one page one shots Patreon creators such
as DM Dave and of course The Wild

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Sheep Chase. If you run the
Wild Sheep Chase, or if you run

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it because you heard of it here. I want to know how that game

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went. Shoot us an email,
Hello Adventurers Podcast at email dot com.

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Let me know how it ended up. There's a tough decision the players have

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to make right at the end.
I want to know what your players did.

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I've run this game, I think
ten times now, and I've had

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players successfully complete the task and I
don't want to spoil anything, and I've

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had players set fire to the room
and walk away and everything in between.

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It's just such a cool one.
I want to know how your a wild

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sheet chase game went. Please tell
me this against Hello Adventurers Podcast at gmail

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dot com or leave us a voicemail
about it. Do that too, that's

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a helloadventures podcast dot com slash voice. Send us a voicemail let us know

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how your first one shot went.
Any party words, guys, no,

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good luck. Like, the more
dms the better because more DMS means more

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players, which means more people that
might listen to this show. So get

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out there and run some games and
have fun. Yeah, oh yeah yeah.

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My final gift to new DMS is
I'm going to give you this phrase.

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Write it down, learn it,
know it tattooed on your forehead.

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Do whatever you got to do,
certainly try Are you sure? Are you

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sure? Start learning? You're scary
for I had a game the other day

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where they're like, Okay, we're
gonna go through the Door'm like, oh,

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you're touching the door, Like yes, okay, nothing, go through

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door. Okay. Guys, thanks
so much for listening to Hello Adventurers.

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We are your host Jason Portizo,
Jim Crocker and Throw McCall. Producer,

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editor Antonineer Jason Portiso. Our music
is by Nick Spurrier, artwork by Kristin

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Roderick, and H listener is by
you, whoever's listening to us right now.

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Good on you, and with nothing
else to say, goodbye,